Nascar at Infineon
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Nascar at Infineon
Anybody watch the race today? I watched about 10 minutes and was shocked at how bad people were doing. With the exception of a few drivers with road course experience the others just embarrassed themselves. I have never seen such bad racing etiquette.
Stick to ovals, nascar.
Stick to ovals, nascar.
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There are a lot of Nascar drivers with Road Course experience. Hell look at Robby Gordon, and he still sucked. It's not driving ability, as much as it is the car. Give them traction control and all that other computer controlled bullshit, then see how they do. I don't get F1. Why not just control the whole car with a computer, and take the driver out? They might as well be remote controlled. :down:
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Originally Posted by wilsel
There are a lot of Nascar drivers with Road Course experience. Hell look at Robby Gordon, and he still sucked. It's not driving ability, as much as it is the car. Give them traction control and all that other computer controlled bullshit, then see how they do. I don't get F1. Why not just control the whole car with a computer, and take the driver out? They might as well be remote controlled. :down:
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Originally Posted by wilsel
There are a lot of Nascar drivers with Road Course experience. Hell look at Robby Gordon, and he still sucked. It's not driving ability, as much as it is the car. Give them traction control and all that other computer controlled bullshit, then see how they do. I don't get F1. Why not just control the whole car with a computer, and take the driver out? They might as well be remote controlled. :down:
Riiiight. Did you ever see where, i think it was montoya, and jeff gordon traded cars? They both ran them around a road course and montoya was only 2 seconds off gordons pace in his nascar. Gordon was something like 18 seconds off montoya's pace in the f1 car. Remote control cars, right?
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Originally Posted by txhatch
Anybody watch the race today? I watched about 10 minutes and was shocked at how bad people were doing. With the exception of a few drivers with road course experience the others just embarrassed themselves. I have never seen such bad racing etiquette.
Stick to ovals, nascar.
Stick to ovals, nascar.
It's tougher to drive NASCAR stock cars. It's not open wheel, it's much heavier, its tires are smaller. And it doesn't have TCS.
Here are some quotes from that Montoya-Gordon matchup.
Originally Posted by gordon
Yes, Jeffy went off-course at the end of the Hulman Blvd short chute after miscalculating braking necessary to make the turn-in. Once he understood how the traction control operated, though, he sure got with the program. On his second stint, Gordon even successfully tried out launch control. Without wheelspin.
"It's amazing. It's just like point and shoot. You just drive in there, stop, turn and just go to the throttle as hard as you can. He told me that, but I didn't believe him," Gordon gushed. He really meant it, too.
"It's amazing. It's just like point and shoot. You just drive in there, stop, turn and just go to the throttle as hard as you can. He told me that, but I didn't believe him," Gordon gushed. He really meant it, too.
Originally Posted by montoya
"The rear moves a lot. It feels really light. It has so much more power than I expected." Montoya's comments about the lack of braking ability on the big Monte Carlo were succinct.
Montoya was making this point after over-shooting the entry to Turn 1 in the Cup car and waggling the rear coming onto the oval's banks after the final turn. He admitted all of this with a huge grin on his face.
Accustomed to Michelin grooved rubber that changes throughout each F1 race stint, Montoya was amazed that the Goodyear slicks lost grip after only a lap. Just something else to get accustomed to on the Chevrolet Monte Carlo. "It's pretty hard to keep it under you."
Montoya was making this point after over-shooting the entry to Turn 1 in the Cup car and waggling the rear coming onto the oval's banks after the final turn. He admitted all of this with a huge grin on his face.
Accustomed to Michelin grooved rubber that changes throughout each F1 race stint, Montoya was amazed that the Goodyear slicks lost grip after only a lap. Just something else to get accustomed to on the Chevrolet Monte Carlo. "It's pretty hard to keep it under you."
Do you have a link regarding the lap times? As far as I know, Gordon did just fine aside from the first lap where he anticipated the car NOT to have handicapped help from TCS.
Here's a link on a discussion over times.
http://www.linksheaven.com/forums/in...=6&t=2476&hl=&
Besides, who won Infineon? Not a ringer. Tony Stewart dominated. Also, no "ringer" has ever won a road race in nascar.
Car stats.
Gordon got seven laps in the Williams FW24 projectile that legally weighs 1322.76 pounds (with driver) and makes 900 horsepower at BMW's stunning 19,000rpm. (With every electronical help in the world).
And Juan Pablo Montoya knows what it's like to muscle a 3400-pound dinosaur with a carburetor and 750 horsies at 8000rpm. (Weak no-anti lock brakes, smaller tires, less aero).
Also, circle track racing is just more exciting. More passes = more entertainment. F1 is a snorefest.