what kind of torque do h23s and h22s get at low rpms(1-3) ?

Ive looked around at dynos on the net and they seem to conflict. I always thought low end torque was awful at low rpms in an engine this size, but ive learned that in various vw/audi four cylinders they develop low end torque very well.
"A turbocharged 1.8-liter four-cylinder that produces 180 hp at 5,500 rpm and 173 pounds-feet of torque at 1,950 rpm is the sole engine offered in the GTI."
How does honda compare to this? I was under the impression that honda built the best affordable four cylinder, so lets hear some pro honda remarks!

btw just to let you know, while walking away from my car i saw a probably 10 sq inch patch of bare metal a few inches above the wheel well- apparently the paint on my car cracked? I didnt think that happened, but its seperated from the metal. Im not sure what poor body work in the cars past could have caused this, but im checking into it.

Just adding another vw engine:
The GTI 1.8T comes with a 1.8 liter, 20-valve, turbocharged, in-line fo ur-cylinder engine that develops 150 horsepower at 5,700 rpm and 155 pound-feet of torque within an rpm range of 1,750 to 4,200.

 

You can't compare a turbo engine to an N/A engine. The turbo on those cars is smaller than my nutsack, so of course they are going to be fully spooled and well within their effective range at lower rpms, thus creating a better low end torque number than a naturally aspirated Honda motor, even if the Honda motor is .4L bigger (which isn't much to make up for the turbo on the 1.8L).

 

O dear god my side hurts from:lmfao:. So It felt like I had to :barf:

 

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!i Dont Know Whats Funnier.....your Ball Sack Being So Small Or The Turbo Being So Small!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hey Mikesta21.....if You Are In Southern Cali I'll Buy Your Prelude And You Can Turn Around And Put That Money Down On A Gti.......pm Me If Your Interested

 

:hahano: You are a fucking comedian. Please don't quit your day job.

 

haha ya thanks guys i wasnt sure if it was just the turbo or not... ive been informed even the n/a vdubs have the low end tq. our hondas lack but i guess its not true...
also if you want a prelude ill say it again a friend is selling his 94 si w/ 126k brand new paint job silver real clean i think hes looking for 4500 but will sell for less.

 

That was THE stupidest thing I've ever heard. It didn't even make sense. Congratulations.

 

das schmoo i was just joking...i didnt want the thread to get out of hand....like some others i've seen.....it seemed like you got a little upset about what mikesta21 said.....so i tried to take it a differnt direction, instead of havinga argument about v dubs and honda's.........oh yeah 97civicex, i dont know what kind of education you got but it makes perfect sense.....you dont have to kiss schmoo ass.......

 

hey mikesta.......wheres that lude located....