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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by k.a.y
any answers to the other questions I asked in the last post? What would the highest compression pistons be that I could safely use w/o sleeving the block? what kind of potential power diffrence would there be?
like i said...forged pistons will eat the FRM sleeves.

power gains:
look at it like 10-1 CR = 190HP
11-1 CR = 220HP

of course the cams are different in the type-s h22 (11-1CR)
but u will have to change them anyway since stock h22 cams dont breath very well above 10.6-1

the other factor here is the nitrous, im not going to make a guess about how much nos ur block can handle when its pushing 11.5-1 CR.
the real issue with nos and (in general) preventing detonation is proper tuning and fuel management.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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would you recommend running some type of stand alone management unit, like an AEM? right now I have a walbro high flow pump & an adjustable fpr, i'll also be running a set of high flow injectors (probly RC) Would a Vafc be able to control everything well enough w/ the stock ecu? or should I go w/ an aem unit?
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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www.pgmfi.org
check them out
if u can learn how to tune on your own it will save you at least a grand on EMS.

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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Don't get an AEM!
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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then should I just use the H22 ecu w/ a Vafc? also, what compression ratio are type-s pistons? what If I went w/ a higher compression non-forged piston? could I then get around having to sleeve the block & still have it run reliably if I ran forged rods??
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by k.a.y
then should I just use the H22 ecu w/ a Vafc? also, what compression ratio are type-s pistons? what If I went w/ a higher compression non-forged piston? could I then get around having to sleeve the block & still have it run reliably if I ran forged rods??
type-s h22 pistons are 11 to 1 CR.

the idea here is that higher compression pistons are forged for a reason.

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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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meaning....what? the Type S pistons should give me a good 220-230 hp in the hybrid build, shouldn't they? will they fit right into the H23 block?
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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These H23 vtec post crack me up, you might as well buy and swap either an H22a1 or H22a(type-s) It will save you a lot of money and heartache in the long run. I have a friend who has done it successfully, so he thought and the engine blew out within a year and a half. It wasn't even fast than my (stock at the time) Factory H22. CAUTION: ITS NOT WORTH IT!!! If you really really need an H23 vtec do this. Ditch the H23 buy an H22 and buy a bore or stroker kit. Walah u've got ur H23 Vtec. Enough of this already!
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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okay, that's nice, but about my previous question.... I already have everything all set & figured out (for the most part) for the build, so i'm going to do it. just trying to figure out the piston/compression/sleeve combination right now.
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