Obama on Gun Control
09-17-2008, 10:57 AM
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I will give a more honest and complete dissection of this at a later time; I'm dealing with the onset of a cold. That being said, I highly recommend you check out a website like factcheck.org on most of your assertions. Also, I think you should look up the term socialist, because the Republican party made two huge socialist moves in the last couple days by taking public ownership in several large financial firms.
Anyways, one thing I'd like to point out is that if you look at actual voting records, that "most liberal" is an outfaced lie that's trotted out against at least the last two major presidential races. It's a FUD tactic that works because sometimes, when people hear a bald faced lie that fits conveniently into their world view (like the whole Obama as a muslim thing, etc), even if corrected later, they still cling hopefully onto this idea that they can present themselves in a clearcut ideological battle.
Anyways, I'm just going to ask you to use some nonpartisan factchecking websites with your statements. It's like Snopes: It's a good thing to make sure you're not believing some hocus-pocus you heard from a "trusted source".
Anyways, one thing I'd like to point out is that if you look at actual voting records, that "most liberal" is an outfaced lie that's trotted out against at least the last two major presidential races. It's a FUD tactic that works because sometimes, when people hear a bald faced lie that fits conveniently into their world view (like the whole Obama as a muslim thing, etc), even if corrected later, they still cling hopefully onto this idea that they can present themselves in a clearcut ideological battle.
Anyways, I'm just going to ask you to use some nonpartisan factchecking websites with your statements. It's like Snopes: It's a good thing to make sure you're not believing some hocus-pocus you heard from a "trusted source".
As far as the govt taking over Freddie Mac and Fannie May and now the AIG bailout, that is something dire that Rep did not want to do but felt had to as if they did not it would be a much worse situation. Generally Democrats and Republicans did not want to do this but based on circumstances and effects felt they had too. McCain has been saying he was not really for the AIG bailout and does not feel the govt and taxpayers should keep bailing failing companies out but has said unfortunately it may be necessary even though he does not like it. I am not happy but then again it probably has to be done unfortunately. Obama and McCain seem to see eye to eye in that they are not very happy about the circumstances and would not ideally want the govt to be taking over and bailing these far too large and powerful companies out but it most likely needs to happen or else things would be much worse if they completely failed and went under.
09-17-2008, 02:57 PM
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I go duffy on dem bitches
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I'm not, nor have I ever been, against background checks.
That said, I've seen some stats (can't find them) that a vast majority of guns in the hands of criminals are either stolen or bought off the streets. Last I checked, you can't run a background check on those.
That said, I've seen some stats (can't find them) that a vast majority of guns in the hands of criminals are either stolen or bought off the streets. Last I checked, you can't run a background check on those.