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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaolinLueb
i am sorry, this guy is an idiot. bring a gun to a presidential rally is a great idea.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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I am all for gun rights...but the dude was just asking for it :uhhok: Any other public rally with regular civialiansand there wouldnt be any hassle. But this was for a presidential candidate. Like it or not, not everyones rights are equal.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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I dont know about PA, but in WI, according to the law it is perfectly legal to open carry, but LEO's wont allow you to do it anyways because it is a threat to the general public. I'm willing to bet it is the same in PA, and the actions taken by the police were normal protocol, and I doubt that it was done just because Obama was in town.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by b00gers
I am all for gun rights...but the dude was just asking for it :uhhok: Any other public rally with regular civialiansand there wouldnt be any hassle. But this was for a presidential candidate. Like it or not, not everyones rights are equal.
Bullshit, your rights are not equal only when you allow them to be!

This man was no threat to the canidate, if he was, he would have been a sniper, and been there ... maybe.. When Obama was there?!?!

He has carried his gun legally for years. The thought that gun owners are criminals is insane. He's an american, and he has the same rights me, you, or obama has.

I hope he sues the people who defiled his rights, wins, and that it is national news.

Call me a right wing nut, but i think those things in the constitution matter. That's just me.

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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brtecson
I dont know about PA, but in WI, according to the law it is perfectly legal to open carry, but LEO's wont allow you to do it anyways because it is a threat to the general public. I'm willing to bet it is the same in PA, and the actions taken by the police were normal protocol, and I doubt that it was done just because Obama was in town.
Uhh I think you are wrong there...in fact I am pretty damn sure you are.

If a state has in their constitution that a person is allowed to open carry there is no legal way to enforce otherwise except in public buildings such as a courthouse, school or other state admin buildings. This means if you are legal to own a gun and carry it on your person in plain view of others you are abiding by the laws set forth by your state and if you are arrested under the reasoning that carrying that weapon is illegal in some manner you are under false arrest and there is recourse for this.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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If I read anything more on this, I'll be sure to update.. I like the way this is going, though, I don't think he'll get much money out of Beaver County..
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BetterBob
Bullshit, your rights are not equal only when you allow them to be!
Hehe. Wish it was that easy man. I didnt really read the article. I just made my comment based on the comments here and my assumption that the guy was open carrying during a rally where Obama was present.

Maybe I should have picked my words better...but circumstance change when there is a high profile person involved. :dunno:
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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OK so doing a little checking into what states allow open carry and restrictions and of course the Wiki came up but the map and explanation is helpful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry

so it appears that PA is an Anomalous open carry state which means there are some restrictions in place for various reasons.

I would think this man had researched those restrictions before pulling this stunt and if not he is a moron doing more harm than good in this case.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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More:

In Pennsylvania, persons 18 years of age and older whom are not prohibited by
law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgun
in plain sight with no license except in vehicles*, cities of
the first class** (Philadelphia) and where prohibited specifically
by statute.
Ref.: Title 18, ch.61, Subchapter A. Uniform Firearms Act & Commonwealth v. Ortiz
http://paopencarry.org/info.html

If he was not in Philly he was within his legal rights.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Epoch
This guy was a typical persecution complex douchebag that wanted this exact situation to happen to him (Complete with the apple and bible. lol).
Exactly. He knew what he was doing and wanted to provoke a reaction to serve his agenda. The result will probably be the opposite of what he intended, there will probably be increased restriction.

Gun, Bible, Apple.

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