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09-20-2006, 10:30 AM
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Who was the last native empire that Christians eliminated?
Discrimination? Against who?
Or each other (a la Catholic vs. Protestant Northern Ireland)?
When was the last abortion bombing done by Christians?
But the biggest difference is that there is a huge majority of Christians that will speak out against that and chastise those that perpetrate it. When was the last time that the Muslim/Islamic community stood up and called for an end to the suicide bombings perpetrated by Palestinians? When was the last time the stood up and repudiated the calling for the death of the Pope? They hada good chance recently. When was the last time a large majority acted against Al Qaeda in Iraq for bombing markets and killing police recruits?
Sure the radicals make up a small percentage of Muslims and I think the majority are peacefull. But their silence at worst makes them complicit or at best scared of reprisals from the majority, either way it leads to a worse impression of Islam and at this point they need to be on a huge PR blitz to make the rest of the world believe them. And not just their words but their actions.
Sure the radicals make up a small percentage of Muslims and I think the majority are peacefull. But their silence at worst makes them complicit or at best scared of reprisals from the majority, either way it leads to a worse impression of Islam and at this point they need to be on a huge PR blitz to make the rest of the world believe them. And not just their words but their actions.
09-20-2006, 11:33 AM
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09-20-2006, 06:53 PM
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There is no forceful Muslim conversion going on either,
Centanni later told CNN by telephone from Gaza City that they felt that they had to convert to Islam.
"I have the highest respect for Islam, but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns and we didn't know what the hell was going on," he said.
"I have the highest respect for Islam, but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns and we didn't know what the hell was going on," he said.
Well there are the native Americans in the US. And the Germans really put a good dent in the Jewish population in the 40's. Oh, and how bout the African and Pacific Islander tribes that the Western world displaced in the early 1900's?
Please, show me evidence of a huge majority of Christians speaking out against violence. Even more so, show how you know that the large majority of Muslims in this country don't speak out against violence. When I lived in Ann Arbor and here at Stanford, there were plenty of peace demonstrations by Palestinian/Arab students. But, when it's just 500 students or so, it's not going to get past the local newspaper. Multiply that by a hundred or so major college campuses, and you have a lot of Muslims speaking out against violence.
Not only do Christians speak out against fundamentalist Christians they write legislation to stop them from spreading their filth.
And it is good to hear that they do speak out but I would like to see CAIR do the same thing.
09-20-2006, 10:36 PM
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I don't doubt that the majority of Christians are against fundamentalist Christians. All I'm saying is that just because you don't see Muslims demonstrating or speaking on TV about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening, in the US at least.
09-21-2006, 05:39 AM
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Is this what you are looking for?
"Muslim leaders in th U.S. have spoken out about sectarian violence. Most folks do not listen because the images of the Muslim leaders have been inevitably male, adult, (usually bearded), and almost always immigrant.
If we only see images of adult male Muslims of Arab and South Asian heritage on TV, at least for some people this will only reinforce the image of "Islam as the Other"."
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/r...Organizations:
"When I lived in Ann Arbor and here at Stanford, there were plenty of peace demonstrations by Palestinian/Arab students. But, when it's just 500 students or so, it's not going to get past the local newspaper. Multiply that by a hundred or so major college campuses, and you have a lot of Muslims speaking out against violence." - Kestrel
You are on to something here. As the U.S. has the only decent university sytem in the world, educated Arabs will eventually figure out how to moderate the extremists.
What the Muslim world really needs their own T.V. station. Then they can feed the proper image via the cathode ray nipple.
"Muslim leaders in th U.S. have spoken out about sectarian violence. Most folks do not listen because the images of the Muslim leaders have been inevitably male, adult, (usually bearded), and almost always immigrant.
If we only see images of adult male Muslims of Arab and South Asian heritage on TV, at least for some people this will only reinforce the image of "Islam as the Other"."
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/r...Organizations:
"When I lived in Ann Arbor and here at Stanford, there were plenty of peace demonstrations by Palestinian/Arab students. But, when it's just 500 students or so, it's not going to get past the local newspaper. Multiply that by a hundred or so major college campuses, and you have a lot of Muslims speaking out against violence." - Kestrel
You are on to something here. As the U.S. has the only decent university sytem in the world, educated Arabs will eventually figure out how to moderate the extremists.
What the Muslim world really needs their own T.V. station. Then they can feed the proper image via the cathode ray nipple.
09-21-2006, 06:24 AM
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09-21-2006, 06:27 AM
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That's one instance. Rewind 100 years and Christians were doing the same thing in other parts of the world.
Maybe, but they were justified with religion. Manifest destiny?
Still not a majority, per se. One anecdote in a very regional setting.
I don't doubt that the majority of Christians are against fundamentalist Christians. All I'm saying is that just because you don't see Muslims demonstrating or speaking on TV about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening, in the US at least.
Maybe, but they were justified with religion. Manifest destiny?
Still not a majority, per se. One anecdote in a very regional setting.
I don't doubt that the majority of Christians are against fundamentalist Christians. All I'm saying is that just because you don't see Muslims demonstrating or speaking on TV about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening, in the US at least.
Hitler believed in a Master Aryan race of Germanic peoples. If he did what he did in the name of Christianity why was he so harsh on the Polish who are a very Catholic nation?
And see my post above. If Muslims are protesting and it is not getting air time then that is a problem because the only side you see or hear is the ones committing the attrocities and terrorist attacks. Why are their protests not front and center on Al Jazera instead of the latest Al Qaeda tape?
09-21-2006, 01:20 PM
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And see my post above. If Muslims are protesting and it is not getting air time then that is a problem because the only side you see or hear is the ones committing the attrocities and terrorist attacks. Why are their protests not front and center on Al Jazera instead of the latest Al Qaeda tape?