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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Too little, too late.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
Too little, too late.
Agreed. But the admission of guilt I want to hear from his mouth would have to be part of the speech he gives when he resigns his office.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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I love how this is being twisted into President Bush admitting guilt for the faulty intelligence. You libs are chomping at the bit here.

The very first paragraph, not CNN's faulty summary in bold, clearly states what President Bush said.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong," Bush said during his fourth and final speech before Thursday's vote for Iraq's parliament. "As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. And I'm also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."
President Bush is clearly acknowledging that much of the intelligence was wrong, but at the time everyone agreed it to be fact. President Bush is still owning up to the fact that it was his decision to go into Iraq based on that information, but this is nothing new. President Bush has always been clear it was his decision. He has also recognized that our intelligence was flawed and is trying to make the corrective steps necessary

Nowhere does it even hint that President Bush is taking reponsibility for the faulty intelligence as the title of this thread and the article falsely lead you to believe. Any responsible and intelligent person is able to clearly understand and grasp this.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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oh whow the sensationalist media loves to fuel the fires of the ignorant. good game.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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I was wondering when you guys would show up....

That's still a major shift for the administration, which has maintained for a long time that the intelligence was good.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
I was wondering when you guys would show up....

That's still a major shift for the administration, which has maintained for a long time that the intelligence was good.
I think that depends.

It is not a big shift to discuss pre-war intelligence faults. That is something that has always been known and addressed, hence Tenet is no longer there.

The big shift that I see is the admiting of mistakes in Iraq and that they are correcting them. The problem with admitting mistakes is that the opposition will jump all over them and ignore the bigger picture to play politics.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
I think that depends.

It is not a big shift to discuss pre-war intelligence faults. That is something that has always been known and addressed, hence Tenet is no longer there.

The big shift that I see is the admiting of mistakes in Iraq and that they are correcting them. The problem with admitting mistakes is that the opposition will jump all over them and ignore the bigger picture to play politics.
I think that was Kestrel's (or should I say Gary Fisher's) point. Admitting mistakes and discussing pre-war intelligence "faults" are the same thing with the Bush administration.

Yes, there is a political cost to admitting mistakes, but the longer you wait, the higher it gets. This was Clinton's problem with his little scandal. Bush has done the same thing. Lots of people have known for years that he didn't decide to go into Iraq based on CIA intelligence, and now, in December 2005, he's still in the stage of admitting that there was something amiss and distancing himself from the biased intelligence that his cabinet cultivated.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
Agreed. But the admission of guilt I want to hear from his mouth would have to be part of the speech he gives when he resigns his office.

Given current evidence, I don't see any reason for him to resign. All the "bush did it on purpose" stuff is still tin foil hat logic.




But the fact that it took the President... how long? To finally admit what the American people knew since the reports first came out of Iraq... thats just sad. It's a disservice to the American people.
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