Since when did Toyota add 18hp to Camry V6??
01-24-2003, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by yianni64
actually, all you have to do is load it up with whatever gas and the car will do the rest. dont forget honda has some of the best engineers out there.
and yeah, my dad put 87 octance in my 240SX one time, and it was a very noticable difference. i put 91 in it.
actually, all you have to do is load it up with whatever gas and the car will do the rest. dont forget honda has some of the best engineers out there.
and yeah, my dad put 87 octance in my 240SX one time, and it was a very noticable difference. i put 91 in it.
About the auto advancing the timing, unless I see some proof, I'm still skeptical. How can the ECU automatically sense the octain of the gas? I don't think the car really sense that you're pouring lesser octain. I think the knock sensor automatically retard the timing due to lower octain but I don't think it really knows what octain is in there. If the engine start pinging, the knock sensor would just retard the timing to a default safe level.
About this quote "although Accord's will jump 10 horsepower or so on premium, V-6's chief engineer says". If this is the case, then why don't they just rate the car @ 250HP then? I can't believe you guys believe this w/out a doubt and yet complain that the 5HP from the Altima is magical. How can this engineer say this with such certainty when the quality of gas varies between the different gas company? Also, premium in some part is 93 octain and others is 91 octain, which one is he referring to? Now you know why I'm skeptical?
01-24-2003, 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by asianautica
If this is the case, then why don't they just rate the car @ 250HP then?
If this is the case, then why don't they just rate the car @ 250HP then?
premium fuel.
01-24-2003, 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by asianautica
About this quote "although Accord's will jump 10 horsepower or so on premium, V-6's chief engineer says". If this is the case, then why don't they just rate the car @ 250HP then? I can't believe you guys believe this w/out a doubt and yet complain that the 5HP from the Altima is magical. How can this engineer say this with such certainty when the quality of gas varies between the different gas company? Also, premium in some part is 93 octain and others is 91 octain, which one is he referring to? Now you know why I'm skeptical?
About this quote "although Accord's will jump 10 horsepower or so on premium, V-6's chief engineer says". If this is the case, then why don't they just rate the car @ 250HP then? I can't believe you guys believe this w/out a doubt and yet complain that the 5HP from the Altima is magical. How can this engineer say this with such certainty when the quality of gas varies between the different gas company? Also, premium in some part is 93 octain and others is 91 octain, which one is he referring to? Now you know why I'm skeptical?
But I gotta say, 240hp running on regular unleaded is :thumbup:. Compare that to Camry's 192hp (now 210hp) and Altima's 240hp, but need premium fuel for those optimal amount of power. IMO, it's more impressive advertise 240hp running on regular gas than 245hp (or 192hp (now 210hp)) on more expensive premium gas. Remember, Honda puts more emphasis on value.
01-24-2003, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by kazi
Altima was already getting 240hp with premium. I'm not going to get into the contreversy about the Altima's extra 5hp. Premium is typically 93 octane. Mid grade is 91 octane. Regular is typically 87.
But I gotta say, 240hp running on regular unleaded is :thumbup:. Compare that to Camry's 192hp (now 210hp) and Altima's 240hp, but need premium fuel for those optimal amount of power.
Altima was already getting 240hp with premium. I'm not going to get into the contreversy about the Altima's extra 5hp. Premium is typically 93 octane. Mid grade is 91 octane. Regular is typically 87.
But I gotta say, 240hp running on regular unleaded is :thumbup:. Compare that to Camry's 192hp (now 210hp) and Altima's 240hp, but need premium fuel for those optimal amount of power.
01-24-2003, 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by asianautica
I don't know where you live, but in California, you can't get 93 octane gas. Premium for us is 91, Mid grade is 89 and regular is 87.
I don't know where you live, but in California, you can't get 93 octane gas. Premium for us is 91, Mid grade is 89 and regular is 87.
You're right. It's the same here. I just remember its 2 increments up in octane for reg/mid/premium. Prices are typically $0.10/g for each step up. Premium is typically $0.20/g more than regular.
01-24-2003, 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by kazi
:doh:
You're right. It's the same here. I just remember its 2 increments up in octane for reg/mid/premium. Prices are typically $0.10/g for each step up. Premium is typically $0.20/g more than regular.
:doh:
You're right. It's the same here. I just remember its 2 increments up in octane for reg/mid/premium. Prices are typically $0.10/g for each step up. Premium is typically $0.20/g more than regular.
01-24-2003, 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by asianautica
Are you sure it's really noticable or is it just your imagination? I've did this test before as well and I don't notice any difference, it was in my old 200SX. Let assume that your 240SX does get more HP on 91, it can't increase no more than 10HP to the crank which is about 8 WHP. The weather alone can change your HP much more drastically than that.
Are you sure it's really noticable or is it just your imagination? I've did this test before as well and I don't notice any difference, it was in my old 200SX. Let assume that your 240SX does get more HP on 91, it can't increase no more than 10HP to the crank which is about 8 WHP. The weather alone can change your HP much more drastically than that.
01-25-2003, 03:27 PM
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A ECU can advance timing if it is programed to. Check this site out for the Noen Race AFX ECU www.afxmfg.com . But for an engineer to come out and say that is petty. The Altima did gain power. There was a dyno done between a 2002 and a 2003 model, and at the wheels the 2003 model had 7 more hp, not 5, but 7.(same dyno)
I think in that article the Honda engineer claimed the Accord was faster than the Altima, which hasn't been proved true as of yet.
I think in that article the Honda engineer claimed the Accord was faster than the Altima, which hasn't been proved true as of yet.