200+hp CRX to arrive in 2006?
#11
If the CRX comes back any of the Si's or higher models will be manual. Si's are always manual. I don't think Honda is going to change that. A 6-spd on a K20a with a wheelbase not much shorter than the original would kick ass. It could be as quick stock as an old Si with a B18C1. I'd hope they could keep it under 2500lbs and still no backseats of course. .
#13
Originally Posted by More&Faster
the integra/RSX has always been a civic with just a longer wheelbase and some different hardware.
then can we say the NA accord/tsx/tl are the same car? why not throw in the odyssey and pilot too since they're on the same platform as well, just with different wheelbases and hardware...
#15
I see no death in the RSX's immediate future. It's selling fine, albeit not at the levels when it first came out.
Honda likes having an Acura model to get Civic owners to step up to. Yeah they could just move up to an Accord, but not everyone who wants a nicer car also wants a bigger car. The RSX keeps those people in the family.
As for the CRX, Si, CTR, whatever: we're clearly not going to get the CTR. I also don't think the CRX name would be used as a trim level of a body style, but rather as a unique body style. In the US market I'm sure we will continue on with the sedan, coupe, and maybe hatchback. The CRX would be its own body style, perhaps with a performance engine choice.
Honda has been far more conservative with its Civic lineup in this country than in Japan dating back to the original Civic 1500 S. That was our "hot" model with a 1.5 liter 12-valve engine while the Japanese got a 130 hp DOHC ZC. Then in '88 we got an Si with a SOHC 16v 1.6 liter, and they got the SiR with the B16A. Etcetera etcetera, on into the present where the best we get is the EP3 Si hatch while the CTR sits painfully out of reach.
Honda likes having an Acura model to get Civic owners to step up to. Yeah they could just move up to an Accord, but not everyone who wants a nicer car also wants a bigger car. The RSX keeps those people in the family.
As for the CRX, Si, CTR, whatever: we're clearly not going to get the CTR. I also don't think the CRX name would be used as a trim level of a body style, but rather as a unique body style. In the US market I'm sure we will continue on with the sedan, coupe, and maybe hatchback. The CRX would be its own body style, perhaps with a performance engine choice.
Honda has been far more conservative with its Civic lineup in this country than in Japan dating back to the original Civic 1500 S. That was our "hot" model with a 1.5 liter 12-valve engine while the Japanese got a 130 hp DOHC ZC. Then in '88 we got an Si with a SOHC 16v 1.6 liter, and they got the SiR with the B16A. Etcetera etcetera, on into the present where the best we get is the EP3 Si hatch while the CTR sits painfully out of reach.
#16
Has anyone seen this article? CRX Concept If a new CRX comes to the market like this, then... :naughty: ! Damn, I'd buy one for sure.
#17
Originally Posted by iNteGraz92
:ugh: if you say so
then can we say the NA accord/tsx/tl are the same car? why not throw in the odyssey and pilot too since they're on the same platform as well, just with different wheelbases and hardware...
then can we say the NA accord/tsx/tl are the same car? why not throw in the odyssey and pilot too since they're on the same platform as well, just with different wheelbases and hardware...
Originally Posted by M Type X
CRX was a two-seater?
What market is there for a cheapo two-seater?
(Ignore teh Pontiac Solstice... )
What market is there for a cheapo two-seater?
(Ignore teh Pontiac Solstice... )
#18
I raise a rhetorical point and you use it to show everyone how much a jerk you are. Congratulations.
So we disagree on how much a market actually exists for low-price two-seat cars. You want Honda to chase GM's ridiculous Kappa project. I don't.
So we disagree on how much a market actually exists for low-price two-seat cars. You want Honda to chase GM's ridiculous Kappa project. I don't.
#19
Originally Posted by M Type X
I raise a rhetorical point and you use it to show everyone how much a jerk you are. Congratulations.
So we disagree on how much a market actually exists for low-price two-seat cars. You want Honda to chase GM's ridiculous Kappa project. I don't.
So we disagree on how much a market actually exists for low-price two-seat cars. You want Honda to chase GM's ridiculous Kappa project. I don't.
#20
Originally Posted by More&Faster
i anyways, i definitely think theres a market for a two seater hatch. there was 15 years ago, and i dont think things have changed so much. have you seen 2g crx prices lately? if you had, you would agree there is a market for them. a 2g crx si commands an unusually high price.
I think Honda could find much success in releasing an inexpensive, sporty, fun, 2 seater hatch with plenty of utility...as long as they don't mess it up.
[edit]Knowing Honda as of late, it'll probably come out as a $19k car that weighs 2800lbs.
But if they get it right, just imagine... People have been lamenting the loss of the CRX (in "hatch" form) ever since the Del Sol came out.