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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Mini is upping the supercharged Cooper S to 170 hp and 162 lb-ft of torque and lowering gearing to boost performance.

The S now scurries from 0 to 62 mph in 7.2 seconds and hits a top speed of 138 mph (previously 7.4 seconds and 133 mph). Squeezing an extra 7 hp and 7 lb-ft out of the supercharged 1.6-liter four also helps offset the extra 220 pounds in the Cooper S Convertible, which makes its world debut at the British motor show this month. The convertible and coupe arrive in the United States this fall.

Revised gearing makes a difference, too, with the reduced ratios for third, fourth and fifth gears on the S. A five-speed Getrag gearbox replaces a Rover-derived unit on the regular Cooper.


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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
[i]... helps offset the extra 220 pounds in the Cooper S Convertible
Another reason I don't understand convertibles, an extra 200 lbs? I thought they took out the whole top! (I know I know,the reinforced material this and that).

Saw the converty in the new york auto show, not too excited. The added HP is nice though.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I thought they were a lot faster than that.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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how dependable are the brazilian built chrysler engines?...that's pushing a lot of power for a stock offering
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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I thought they were a lot faster than that.
the Works package is the fast one
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jaje
how dependable are the brazilian built chrysler engines?...that's pushing a lot of power for a stock offering

hard to say since it's a brand new engine. I know racing minis are pushing 165+hp in the UK with the non sced engine.

With the Works package the engine tops off at 200hp. MiniMania has a package that will do 250hp easy (so they say).

Only time will tell.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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A while ago, I'd heard that a German firm was working on getting an oversized turbo system together to work in conjuction with the Mini Cooper S' blower. :eek3: But this was a while ago, and I've seen nothing more in the last year or so. :dunno:

And it may be a moot point, anyway...BMW is already making noises about changing to a DOHC 1.6/1.8 or maybe 2.0 turbocharged I-4 for the Mk2 Mini.

>>http://www.mini2.com/news/news225.html <<
"Conflicting" Reports, Decisions Not Yet Made?

Reading through reports online and in print, it's very hard to tell what the future holds for MINI and it's new BMW PSA Peugeot Group engines. What cars will have what sized engine, and how much will the power ratings be changed. Will the S be a 1.6, 1.8 or even 2 litre car, and is it true the Supercharger whine will become a thing of the past?

Well it seems, from information we've been receiving at MINI2, that even BMW may not have finalised how the new MINI range will pan out, although we are aware they are testing several configurations of the new "Prince" engines.

The MINI One, currently supplied with a 1.6 litre "de-tuned Cooper" engine in most countries will instead be offered with a 1.4 litre DOHC unit with BMW engineered variable valve timing technology. Despite the smaller capacity the new engine is expected to offer just as much power as the current unit, and is expected to be very smooth, as well as offering greatly improved economy.

All the new engines are reported to be "significantly" lighter than the current Tritec units, which will also help terms of performance and economy, as well as overall front/rear weight distribution.

It seems the configuration of the new MINI Cooper engine is still not set in stone. The Cooper looks set to be offered with a 1.6 litre DOHC engine, producing either 125 or 140 bhp. It would seem BMW are not sure HOW much more power the next generation Cooper should get, but the good news is whichever they decide, they're heading in the right direction!

Next up is the Cooper S, which looks to be a 1.6 litre DOHC Turbocharged unit, with a power output of between 170-180 bhp. Rumour has it BMW are planning on using the unique advance Multi-Stage Turbocharging technology in the new Cooper S engine. This technology, recently revealed in the BMW 535d, has been developed to eliminate the usual "turbo lag" sensation associated with acceleration in turbo charged vehicles.

Further rumours suggest BMW may offer a 200 bhp "super hot" Cooper S from the factory, as well as a high performance diesel model.

Test units are being produced at BMW's Hams Hall engine plant in the Midlands, UK, and reports indicate BMW are keen to produce the MINI engine in house, and not at the PSA Group plant in Douvrin, France where the engines were initially due to be produced. This will give BMW, who are in overall control of development, greater quality control and flexibility in the production of the unit for the MINI range.

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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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i just think the weakest point is the engine...bmw chassis, chrysler 4 cylinder powerplant...doesn't sound very impressive

hopefully they will get a much better bmw designed engine...chrysler may know big block 5+ liter hemi v8s but they don't know inline config engines as well as a honda inline 4 or a bmw inline 6
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DakarM
hard to say since it's a brand new engine. I know racing minis are pushing 165+hp in the UK with the non sced engine.

With the Works package the engine tops off at 200hp. MiniMania has a package that will do 250hp easy (so they say).

Only time will tell.
with forced induction you should be able to make power with any engine...it forces it to...FI is an easy fix for a poorly tuned and designed engine...sometimes it is no other way...for instance the 2.0 mazda protege engines...without f/i they are just thrashy 4 bangers...(speed wc mazdas have to rebuild the engines every other race as they destroy themselves just trying to make the same power a lightly tuned rsx type s engine does ~245hp)...i'm talking from personal research and experience

anyway...165hp out of a 1.6 liter engine that is tuned for racing is pretty simple (remove cat and all emissions components, p&p, custom exhaust, intake, tuning, etc.)...you can do it with honda 1.6 liter engines to the wheels and yet still pass emissions
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