Sebring_S2k

I chose the S2000, but I would seriously consider the G35 coupe over it.

Honda/NissanFan

I what to see what the Covertible version will look like.

zishan

Surprisingly, the s2000's epa rating is 20city 26highway while the 350z is 20 city 27highway (if 02rsxtypes' info is correct)

fastball

I voted for the S2k no doubt. I checked out the 350z at the Cleveland Auto Show in Feb. and up close I didn't like the rear styling. Everything else about the car is great, but that back end needs work, IMO.

yianni64

Hmm yeah the F20C is a thirsty 4 cylinder. And its a really close ratio 6-speed so that 6th gear isnt all that tall.

Honda/NissanFan

Maxima 255HP @5800 RPM
246lbs @4400 RPM

Altima 240HP @5800 RPM
246lbs @4400 RPM

G35 260HP @6000 RPM
260lbs @4800 RPM

350z 287HP @6200 RPM
274lbs @4800 RPM

Those are the torque and hp figures for the different V6s in Nissan Cars. Now if you look at the Altima and the Maxima, how can a car with the same engine make the same peak torque at the same rpm, and have different peak hp amounts while at the same rpm?

And notice how the Z has 287hp, why not lie and just say 290 (matches NSX) or 285. Why make it an odd number? That shows that Nissan has tested their engines and Nissan has stated why and how the G35 and Z get their increased hp, but has never stated where the Altima's lost 15hp is at.

98CoupeV6

Or maybe they want you to think they've tested well? Or is it the Maxima'sgained 15 horsepower?

Who the **** really cares, either way? Come on, bro.

yianni64

I want to see a dyno chart for the Maxima, cuz the 240hp Altima puts out 192hp. So if the Altima is 240hp, that mean it has a 19% power loss. If you are trying to say that its 255hp, that mean it has about a 23% drivetain loss. I'm just trying to say, for Nissan sake, lets say it has a engine that makes 240hp at the crank, becuase 23% loss on a fwd car is pretty bad.

Also, I bet you the NSX has more than 290hp.

yianni64

Reason I say NSX has more than 290hp is becuase I am looking at dyne charts for a few NSX's, stock ones, that put down 260-265+hp. That means if it really was 290hp, itll have a 9% drivetrain loss. I'm thinking more along the lines of over 300hp. But thats Honda style, they underquote themselves, unlike Nissan here..... :fawk:

The Apple

This got me curious just as to how different the Altima and Maxima engines really are, so I did a quick search over at Altimas.net and Maxima.org to look for some dyno runs and what I found was pretty interesting to me so I figured I'd repost them here...

Stock '02 5-speed Altima SE dyno from here:



Stock '02 6-speed Maxima dyno from here:



I'm not sure where you saw an Altima SE putting out 192hp because most of the dynos I saw while over there were all in the 204hp range like the dyno above, maybe you saw the plot for an automatic 3.5SE? Anyway that's not really important, what I found interesting was that there seems to be really no difference between the motors at all. As far as I can tell from these dyno charts they're exatly the same, but since Nissan is claiming different power output for the two cars they're either underrating the 240hp Altima since 14% drivetrain loss is better then average, or they're overrating the 255hp Maxima since 20% drivetrain loss is worse then average. It's my guess that the motors in the Altima and the Maxima are acctualy producing a power rating somewhere inbetween Nissan's claim of 240hp and 255hp, like 245-250.

Or not, who knows.