First setup i might want to do



a Dyno for it, will Integra Type R camshafts yeild for power then aftermarket? (Heard both yes and no. (Say Crower 403's or 404's?) With 404's how high would car idle about 1,500 right?

About 200HP

Other setup would be LS-All Motor..

Crower 403's or 404's or mabye Type R camshafts not sure yet..
P30 pistions
Camgears
Upgrade intake manafold/thorttle body
I/H/E
Ported and Polished
Upgraded ECU
Better flowing head

about 170HP-180HP



Thats with a B18a engine to isn't the B18B better or they the same?

Was going to go Turbo but i don't want to put that much in my car so these are the new setups

LS-Vtec Price abut 3,000
LS-all Motor about 2,000

Gut is saying LS-Vtec but won't 40-50 extra HP make me feel a differnce? In LS setup?

I just want a fun daily driver what would a Integra with each setup run at?

low 14s to high-mid 13 sec 1/4 mile times. with Vtec
About mid to high 15's with LS-all Motor...

 

if you are wanting n/a power you might want to start with a b18c1 or c5(c1= gsr about 180hp c5= type r about 200hp) remember without building the botton end an ls-vtec is still limited to an 7000 redline.

 

Are you serious?

How many threads are we going to have on this? I could have sworn you decided to go turbo and that was that.

 

180-200whp from a straight ls non vtec will be hard to drive because of the big cams you need

that's why vtec has an advantage. you can run relatively big cams and still have very good day to day driveability yet still make big numbers.

 

oh and power to cost ratio...turbo > NA

 

if i start with a GSR engine then where is the best place to get one at?

LS-Vtec would cost 1,000 (Parts for Vtec) + 2,000 (Engine parts camshafts gears etc.)

GSR Swap (2,000 engine plus trans) Plus Turbo = 4K about 240HP oooo what fun

The only reason i wasn't going to do Turbo is because i don't know jack shit.

I know i need Intercooler, Blowoff Valve, bigger fuel injecters.

Don't know how to set it up/put it together though.

Plus with this i am totally lost with compression and what i would need or how high i should go..

Or even a LS-Turbo what other gears and shit do i get...

 

if a turbo setup is making your head hurt all motor isnt any easier. it's actually much harder since you really have to know what parts will work well together to make power.

 

I really like your setup, now that i remember what your old name was before you changed it LOL...

How much did you put in yours? (Your can PM me if you wan't if you don't want to tell everyone)

How much would my LS make compared to yours? I don't think i need that much HP but nice setup...

LS would be about 200-210 right?

Civic type R cams will not work for anything but Vtec.. So i would have to do aftermarket LS Turbo cams right?

Oh ya 91 Octane Only...

 

If you keep asking people to write down everything you need to make xxx power, your completely defeating the purpose of this hobby. Copying somebody's list of suggested parts will not always be the best thing to do. Every engine is different, and what works for one will not necessarily work for another.

It sounds like you are not truly passionate about accomplishing your goals, you just want "horsepower." Theres nothing wrong with that if you can afford to drop your car off at a shop with a blank check and pay them whatever it takes, but it seems your just looking for the easiest and cheapest way to fame. In my opinion, an enthusiasts forms there own ideal setup after years of reading, trial & error, experience, dedication and a decent amount of funding.

If you want a fast car but have no interest in researching, or putting forth any effort to learn on your own then your better off saving your money and paying somebody who knows. If you really want to make this a very large portion of your life, stop being lazy! Its not hard to find out everything you need to properly turbo charge your LS and make 250 + whp for < 3K. If I remember correctly, a fairly knowledgable HAN member offered to show you the ropes because he lives close to you. Why didn't you take advantage of that?

Heres a few links if you decide this is for you. Google is your friend...
Tunning (Needed for everything): http://home.comcast.net/~keebler65/honda/
Camshaft Terminology: http://www.auto-ware.com/combust_bytes/camspecs.html
Import Review: http://www.importreview.com/performance.html
Honda Articles: http://importnut.net/honda.htm
Turbo Kits 101: http://www.beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

I could go on and on, my Bookmarks folder consists of many categorized automotive folders, ranging from tunning to FI to physics, etc etc. It's my encyclopedia to the auto world.

Edit: Sorry for the rant, not trying to be an ass. It's been a frustrating day.

 

I have no idea how much is spent altogether, but total for the turbo kit brand new in the most basic form was $2800 or so. Start adding a boost controller, gauges, real fuel management, MAP sensor, BOV, wideband, manifold, exhaust, clutch, etc and it will start getting pricey.

At 8 psi, I don't doubt you could put down 190-210 whp depending on the health of the motor. Turn the boost up a bit and you could easily max out the MAP sensor and see 250 whp at ~12 psi.

You can use stock LS cams. They are just fine for boost.

I am working with 91 only as well. It really won't affect you with a low boost setup.