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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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right now i'm driving a stock 89 toyota celica st. the closer i get to my 18th the more i want a new car. i love the styling of the 2nd Gen Integra. now i know the 92-93 GS-R w/the 1.7L VTEC would be the best to get but of the other trims which one is best? (i.e. RS, GS, LS). if i get one it will prob not be a GS-R so that would make the engine a 1.8L B18A right? so anyways i was thinking after i buy it to do rims, lowering springs (preferably 2" or lower), prob KYB GR-2 struts, a header, hi-flo cat, catback exhaust, possibly digi ignition, underdrive pulleys, cams, adj. cam gears, a venom 400 (do they even make them for the B18A?) and a Carbon Fiber hood. so my questions were can i find these parts and which company is best for each part? thanks for helping a noob out!
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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The LS would be the best trim. Before dumping all that money read post's on this site and other sites and see what is the best thing that will best fit your needs. Just don't go out and buy something because you think it's cool and HOT! I jumped into a turbo setup about 4 weeks ago without knowing nothing about it and now it's a nightmare. Just do some research b4 buying anything. Goodluck
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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anybody else have any opinions? and i've researched and i don't see how what i've listed will be a nightmare...aren't they pretty common mods?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Underdrive pulleys, ignition, and the venom chip are a total waste of money. Unless you have VTEC, cams would also be a good waste of money and would sacrifice daily drivability and smog regulations if you have them.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Underdrive pulleys, ignition, and the venom chip are a total waste of money.
why? you make a statement and don't make any sense.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Underdrive pulleys, ignition, and the venom chip are a total waste of money. Unless you have VTEC, cams would also be a good waste of money and would sacrifice daily drivability and smog regulations if you have them.
Originally Posted by TEGG2
why? you make a statement and don't make any sense.
OK here we go...
Underdrive pulleys: Don't make any real power, maybe a little throttle response. Plus I've heard horror stories of spun rod bearings from the loss of a harmonic dampner, over or under-charging from the Alt and so on.

Digi/Aftermarket ignition: The stock system is fine unless you're making serious power thru turbo/SC, nawss or serious NA setup.

Venom (and other) Chips: Most simply fool the ECU into thinking you've pressed the gas further than you have, ruining fuel economy and not making any power. Nevermind the CEL's and all that fun.

Just drop it with some springs and shocks, slap on an intake, headER and cat-back and be happy for now. You could also lighten your flywheel for some throttle response. There is no cheap and easy way to make a slow-ass honda, fast. Do a search, on this site and others. You're sure to find what you need to make your car the way you want it to be.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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actually the GS is above the LS. it's the same car except the GS has GSR suspension.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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is this true? i thought the gs was the same as the ls but with leather
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jr_kbad
is this true? i thought the gs was the same as the ls but with leather
Not sure, but I've heard from multiple people just over time that GS is right below the GS-R, hence the GS, just minus the R.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jr_kbad
is this true? i thought the gs was the same as the ls but with leather
For the second generation, leather was a somewhat expensive option for the GS. I used to have a '92 GS with a pristine tan leather interior... :happysad:

Anyway:
The RS is the best non-VTEC to make fast, since it was stripped.
The LS is the best comprimise, they're middle-of-the-road and the most common.
The GS is the best for luxury, since they had virtually all of the features (armrest, leather, auto trans, and spoiler where still optional though.)

The GS-R was a beast of it's own, but only about 3k where ever made and they command a high premium today.
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