88 Integra Cylinder Heads Help...
I searched for all I could find on heads for this model, a stock 1988 Integra LS plain brown wrap no mods w/ps a/c auto. 148k on orig. motor.
While working on struts-alternator, noticed copious oil and a tad of antifreeze in and around the timing cover area. Removed p/s & timing cover and cam. sprockets (dohc) to better inspect. Was what appeared to be a "light dusting" of oil/dirt residue in and around cam-seal area, (not too wet looking, mostly gunky) along with oil streaking downward (not too wet looking)on front corner near ex.manifold.
However, inside timing belt cover was junked to max and oil galore spreading just about everywhere. (including on water pump sprocket and belt, glad didn't bust that belt!!) Along with coolant from it seems the water pump. No coolant visible near heads.
However oily residue junk all along heads on that side. (possible blown back from front??) I'm wondering if that is just blowback from the leaky cam seal and/or valve cover, (recently sealed after valve adj. w/new gasket & siliconed at cam corners as is normal), or is it even possible that there would be oil out of the head/gasket area? Doesnt' seem possible there would be oil out of a head(s). Of course I know enuf about Hondas to know they're notorious for leaky valve covers, might be just that? I'm really concerned about the amount of oil built up inside the timing cover, I'm wondering if its just been collecting there forever?? It drooled all the way to the bottom.(blowing back and dropping off oil pan) Of course with everything tore up, going to be difficult to figure out the source.
I'm going to hose off the engine cleaner in the morning and take a better gander at it. Plan on new water pump, t-belt/tensioner and cam seals at a minimum, am prepared (and knowledgeable enuff) to do the heads myself as I've done '87 civic motor and Suzuki heads b/4 so no prob. there, jus wondering if that seems like overkill at this point. Car running *okay*, jus burned alot of oil (yeah think most of it inside the timing cover lol).
Would appreciate any advice on this. I know these cars have problems that are "typical" for that model/year etc.
Great forums btw!!!!
Mark.
EDIT: Forgot to add that spark plugs have been clean and are still clean, don't think the rings are leaking. Perhaps oil from valve guides leaking thru blown head gasket? ??? Someone has to have worked on this before lol.
While working on struts-alternator, noticed copious oil and a tad of antifreeze in and around the timing cover area. Removed p/s & timing cover and cam. sprockets (dohc) to better inspect. Was what appeared to be a "light dusting" of oil/dirt residue in and around cam-seal area, (not too wet looking, mostly gunky) along with oil streaking downward (not too wet looking)on front corner near ex.manifold.
However, inside timing belt cover was junked to max and oil galore spreading just about everywhere. (including on water pump sprocket and belt, glad didn't bust that belt!!) Along with coolant from it seems the water pump. No coolant visible near heads.
However oily residue junk all along heads on that side. (possible blown back from front??) I'm wondering if that is just blowback from the leaky cam seal and/or valve cover, (recently sealed after valve adj. w/new gasket & siliconed at cam corners as is normal), or is it even possible that there would be oil out of the head/gasket area? Doesnt' seem possible there would be oil out of a head(s). Of course I know enuf about Hondas to know they're notorious for leaky valve covers, might be just that? I'm really concerned about the amount of oil built up inside the timing cover, I'm wondering if its just been collecting there forever?? It drooled all the way to the bottom.(blowing back and dropping off oil pan) Of course with everything tore up, going to be difficult to figure out the source.
I'm going to hose off the engine cleaner in the morning and take a better gander at it. Plan on new water pump, t-belt/tensioner and cam seals at a minimum, am prepared (and knowledgeable enuff) to do the heads myself as I've done '87 civic motor and Suzuki heads b/4 so no prob. there, jus wondering if that seems like overkill at this point. Car running *okay*, jus burned alot of oil (yeah think most of it inside the timing cover lol).
Would appreciate any advice on this. I know these cars have problems that are "typical" for that model/year etc.
Great forums btw!!!!
Mark.
EDIT: Forgot to add that spark plugs have been clean and are still clean, don't think the rings are leaking. Perhaps oil from valve guides leaking thru blown head gasket? ??? Someone has to have worked on this before lol.
Last edited by marky777; Aug 24, 2004 at 12:38 PM. Reason: Additional information
First thing first, an inline four engine only has one head. Just one, unlike V6/8/10/12/16 engines that have two heads.
Anyway, fully clean everything and take it for a short drive. It will be much easier to spot where the leak is coming from this way. Coolant usually automatically implies a blown head gasket or warped head, though.
Anyway, fully clean everything and take it for a short drive. It will be much easier to spot where the leak is coming from this way. Coolant usually automatically implies a blown head gasket or warped head, though.
Was hoping for more advice than a lecture on semantics. If you didn't pick up from my jargon that I do have some clue as to what I am doing, then I guess I just didn't parse my sentences correctly.
"Along with coolant from it seems the water pump. No coolant visible near heads."
Now that I got the p.s. alt, strut, axle, oil drained and a good machine shop nearby, what makes you think I would reassemble all that, get it back running, just to take it all apart again?
If you had said, "yeah, sounds like the head is leaking, maybe from oil ports " or whatever, instead of the inline lecture.
I guess there aint a damn person on this entire site that's ever worked on acura motors. Bunch of rice rocket junkies supervising someone else doin the grunt work?
Sorry I asked. What a hassle for nothing.
I promise I won't ask no more stupid questions if you don't give any stupid answers.
"Along with coolant from it seems the water pump. No coolant visible near heads."
Now that I got the p.s. alt, strut, axle, oil drained and a good machine shop nearby, what makes you think I would reassemble all that, get it back running, just to take it all apart again?
If you had said, "yeah, sounds like the head is leaking, maybe from oil ports " or whatever, instead of the inline lecture.
I guess there aint a damn person on this entire site that's ever worked on acura motors. Bunch of rice rocket junkies supervising someone else doin the grunt work?
Sorry I asked. What a hassle for nothing.
I promise I won't ask no more stupid questions if you don't give any stupid answers.
And if I had known that bumping was totally okay in here (by viewing the junk that gets bumped forever) I would have kept bumpin this to oblivion.
Thats okay, I'll handle it. Thanks for the extreme waste of time.
Thats okay, I'll handle it. Thanks for the extreme waste of time.
Hey, maybe try to fix it your damn self before letting a shop rip it to pieces (which you mentioned NOWHERE in your original post.) I guess the problem is beyond us, according to you, so let a shop fix the prob for $100 an hour on a $500 car. Have fun with that, assclown. Hope it works out for you in the end, because I sure as f*ck won't offer any more advice. 
By the way, use the correct terms when talking about the engines. HEAD, singular. HEADS, plural. Basic concept. Live and learn, don't bitch when you're wrong.

By the way, use the correct terms when talking about the engines. HEAD, singular. HEADS, plural. Basic concept. Live and learn, don't bitch when you're wrong.


