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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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i agree with twin if you want longevity and a tire you can still beat on go with kuhmo!
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Blech, screw the Kumho 712. It's not very sticky nor is it special in any particular category. I really am mystified as to how it has developed the reputation it has.

If you want a reasonably sticky tire that is not too expensive and has better tread life than the absolute stickiest tires out there, then the only tire you should be looking at is the Yokohama AVS ES100. It is way stickier than the Kumho 712 and lasts longer than the top eschelon (in terms of stickyness) tires.

If you want the absolute stickiest tire in both wet or dry conditions regardless of treadwear then there are several tires that are very closely comparable and mainly differ on price: Bridgestone Potenza S-03, Kumho Ecsta MX, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, Pirelli PZero Nero, Toyo Proxes T1-S and Michelin Pilot Sport are some examples. The Kumho MX is the cheapest option in this category and is actually a good tire unlike the 712.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Don't forget the Dunlop Sport SP 9000s
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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I got Nitto 450's on all fours, they grip like a mother f***** because how soft they are but the downside is that they wear fast.

Go Kumho if you want them to last long, cheap and not as high quality but long lasting
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Epoch
Don't forget the Dunlop Sport SP 9000s
They're a good sticky tire and stickier than the likes of the AVS ES100 but they're about a half step below the current cream of the crop. Same deal with the Yokohama AVS Sport--it's been out for a while and has since been passed in terms of traction by cheaper tires like the Kumho MX and Pirelli Nero.
Originally posted by So.Cal_INTEGRA
I got Nitto 450's on all fours, they grip like a mother f***** because how soft they are but the downside is that they wear fast.

Go Kumho if you want them to last long, cheap and not as high quality but long lasting
If you think that Nitto 450s "grip like a mother ****er" then you have never driven a car that has REAL performance tires on it because the 450s are not particularly sticky.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by MrFatbooty

If you think that Nitto 450s "grip like a mother ****er" then you have never driven a car that has REAL performance tires on it because the 450s are not particularly sticky.

:werd: the 450s are junk. probably a step below the 712s. they harden like a bastard and don't grip at all after 9K or so.
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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Ventus HRII H405, much better than the stock perellis that come on si civics

great tires made by Hankook, wont hurt the pockets neither.
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