d16 turbo ???s (also: ex engine/lx-dx auto tranny).....
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ok, besides vtec, whats the differences between the ex and dx/lx engines?
Why can the ex handle 10psi, but the lx/dx blows on 6psi?
How much should the ex engine itself run?
is there any way to build up the lx engine to handle 6-10psi? Maybe ex piston/rods? (I rather not have vtec)
basiclly, how well do you think an automatic lx/dx tranny will hold up w/ a torque converter matched to an ex engine on 6-10psi? I know autos are weaker, but the lx/dx engine is geared awsome for FI, and auto would be suitable since you just punch it and don't let up. I know it sounds retarded, but it's a setup you don't often see, and it could end up saving me money. Plus, I have no problem getting a new tranny if the auto blows out (go ahead and swap to 5speed then).
and yes, I did search, but felt readdressing this was in reason.
Why can the ex handle 10psi, but the lx/dx blows on 6psi?
How much should the ex engine itself run?
is there any way to build up the lx engine to handle 6-10psi? Maybe ex piston/rods? (I rather not have vtec)
basiclly, how well do you think an automatic lx/dx tranny will hold up w/ a torque converter matched to an ex engine on 6-10psi? I know autos are weaker, but the lx/dx engine is geared awsome for FI, and auto would be suitable since you just punch it and don't let up. I know it sounds retarded, but it's a setup you don't often see, and it could end up saving me money. Plus, I have no problem getting a new tranny if the auto blows out (go ahead and swap to 5speed then).
and yes, I did search, but felt readdressing this was in reason.
I'm pretty sure it's cause the lx's and dx's have a few restrictions like a different intake manifold and possibly a smaller tb (i'm not sure) Either way if you tune it right i'm sure you can get a lx/dx motor to 10 pounds.
D-series throttle bodies are same size.
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
Originally posted by ManTiS
D-series throttle bodies are same size.
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
D-series throttle bodies are same size.
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
Thanks for clearing that up.
Originally posted by ManTiS
D-series throttle bodies are same size.
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
D-series throttle bodies are same size.
There goes the infamous "long gears are good for turbo" false perception. Long gears suck ass. I have an Ex and guess what? I am getting shorter gears. You're going to spit out your false perceptions and on what you 'hear' but I can guarantee that if you put my 'new' tranny versus EX vx DX ... the outcome my tranny > EX > DX
Longer gears give you a false perception of being quicker because it's easier to get traction. Shorter gears will always outaccelerate longer gears given no traction issues.
'Longer gears hold boost better' is bull$hit. Boost is built by engine load not speed.
I have good sources to back me up, do you?
Originally posted by 96cpe
The reason that dx's can't handle that much boost is it doesn't have a forged crank. also dx's suck to turbo (96+) because of the horizontal throtle body.
The reason that dx's can't handle that much boost is it doesn't have a forged crank. also dx's suck to turbo (96+) because of the horizontal throtle body.


