I’m just going to leave this thread open to all possible ideas. This includes engine swaps, turbos, ect., but I would like to steer away from the bottle (no offense to ya’ll out there straight sprayn’). Cost is, as with most people, something to think about.

The car: ’98 Civic DX Sedan (yea, the kind w/4 doors)
Objective: 13 sec. Daily driver (retain A/C and P/S), Honda reliability and a usable power band. When I say 13 sec., I mean if it’ll run a 13.999 it’ll make the cut.

Please also include your suggestions on drive train components/engine internals/other things that will need to be addressed in conjunction with meeting the objective. Thanks in advance, now have at it…:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

 

built b18c1, 9:1 compression, 20lbs of boost, & a 35 shot of n20


AND DONT FORGET TUNING, IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART!

 

Okay, I'll get right on it...

Are you the man to call when it comes time to tune it?

 

bahahahhaa, hell no

that setup up there would probably give you high 11's -low 12's on slick & a full interior

 

Stock SiR-G swap (JDM GSR for some of you :P) and a 55 shot of ZEX. This is the MOST reliable and effective way to go. You have you stock engine, that can go REAL fast only when you need it. I don't understand why soooo many are affraid of the juice, hell, I'd be more leary about a turbo setup than N20.
Once again, simple & effective, B18C + 55 shot = full body (wheels, kit, interior) probably in the 13's on some real sticky tires.

 

B18B swap, stock internals are fine
Custom turbo kit
- RevHard manifold
- Tial 35mm wastegate
- TurboXS manual boost controller (set to 10 psi)
- Turbonetics T3/TO4B 0.63 a/r Stage II turbine, S-3 trim compressor
- good but not huge intercooler
- take yer pick BOV (TurboXS is good and not too pricey)
- pipes, fittings, etc
2.75" downpipe w/ flex pipe
3" Carsound hi-flo cat
3" Thermal R&D exhaust
AEM EMS programmable ECU
RC Engineering 440cc/min injectors
B&M Command-flo fuel pressure regulator & guage
Upgraded in-tank fuel pump
Plenty of time on the ol' dyno
Beefy clutch
Sticky street tires

I don't like nitrous because I perceive it as I dunno, an added boost or something. Too much like a video game. I want the power all the time instead of just when the juice is flowing.

 

So, what's the total damage for these major pieces? I noticed you didn't recommend a LSD, any reason why?

Anyone think I could have this w/the stock motor and forced induction OR a built N/A B series mill?

 

Personally I wouldn't keep the stock motor in, even if I did get a turbo or a SC, just because the DX engine is weak. It has enough 'pep' to get it around but you'd really have to work on it if you wanted to get into the 13's. If I was you I'd probably swap either a B16 or a B20, both of them engines are cheaper than the popular GSR swap.

 

Hmm... a 4 door in the 13's...

stock B16, rev-hard turbo kit, AEM EMS, and an LSD should get you there with some decent tires, the LSD will help your 60' more than anything, which means it'll also help your day-to-day driving.

Anyways, that's what I'd put together if I were just looking for 13's. Figure ~$2200 total parts and pieces for the engine, another $2k for the EMS, $1500 for the turbo kit, and the LSD would depend on where you get it, obviously buying a swap with a JDM tranny with stock LSD would be the cheapest way. Those are all very high estimates BTW... I like to set myself up to spend more than I probably will

 

Built N/A B-series would be a helluva lot more expensive if you want to put down like 190-200 whp.

Turbo B18B or B16A will both give good numbers, with the B16 obviously being a bit more peaky. That's really up to you. Either way you can put down at least 200 to the wheels on the stock internals no problem.

Here's a price run down.

B18B swap with transmission - $1500
RevHard manifold - $475
Turbonetics T3/TO4B 0.63 a/r Stage II turbine, S-3 trim compressor - $875
Tial 35mm wastegate - $250
TurboXS manual boost controller - $75
TurboXS Type-S BOV - $125
RevHard 25" x 8" x 3.5" intercooler - $600
Mandrel-bent intercooler pipes - $200
Assorted hoses, vacuum lines, fittings, clamps, etc - $150
2.75" downpipe w/ flex pipe - $175
3" Carsound hi-flo cat - $90
3" Thermal R&D exhaust - $550
AEM EMS programmable ECU - $1300
RC Engineering 440cc/min injectors - $350 (or DSM 450cc's for less)
B&M Command-flo fuel pressure regulator & guage - $100
Holley (a.k.a. Walbro) 255 lph in-tank fuel pump - $200
ACT HDSS clutch - $450

Alternatively you could call up RevHard and ask em for a Stage 2 kit but say you want to supply your own turbo, wastegate, fuel pump, pressure regulator and downpipe. I don't know if they do custom orders like that or not but it'd get you all your assorted minor parts together in one step, plus the manifold, intercooler, etc. I feel that for the most part the turbos they include are oversized for the intended application, plus they give you a progressive-rate fuel pressure regulator, crappy Deltagate wastegate and not-so-great fuel pump.