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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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VORTECH V-4 XX-TRIM SUPERCHARGER
The supercharger of choice among top racing teams for performance and durability
Straight cut spur gear
Fits engines up to 1,400+ horsepower
Maximum airflow: 1,850 CFM *
Maximum boost pressure: 29 PSI *
Absolute maximum impeller speed: 58,000 RPM
Adiabatic efficiency: 78% **
Available with straight discharge and clockwise rotation only
Click here for XX-Trim models

problem is getting it to fit
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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what kind of setup would be suggested for that model of vortech? could i use the same setup as for a turbo? should i use a 9.0 or more towards a 9.5 compression ratio? would it fit with a b16a2 or would i still be better off getting a b18c1? i just did some research on the vortech and some people are posting 12 sec timeslips with 250-300 hp. Does that seem feasible? Thats kinda what I want to do in the end. So that setup sounds decent right now
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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here is a link to this guys setup
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=Honda%20Civic
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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http://www.cybernationmotorsports.co.../news/hci1.jpg
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.co.../news/hci2.jpg
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.co.../news/hci3.jpg
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.co.../news/hci4.jpg
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.co.../news/hci5.jpg

This is a turbo but it will give you an idea

EDIT: Has the pics posted but they are huge
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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what magazine is that out of so I can see what his engine mods were?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Why the fixation on a supercharger when it's so much simpler to go with a turbo? Do you even have a particular motor in mind?
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Why the fixation on a supercharger when it's so much simpler to go with a turbo? Do you even have a particular motor in mind?
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It was out of HCI, not sure what month but I personally have that issue. If you look real close you can read the article.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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isnt the vortech just like a turbo setup but just uses a supercharger? I'm just looking for the best bang for the buck. Either a B16A2 or the B18C1 are my motor choices. Again, I want to run around 11 sec range(give or take a sec) but still be a daily driver,approx 250-300hp I dunno if that sounds right. I hope this helps some.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by dx2gsr
isnt the vortech just like a turbo setup but just uses a supercharger? I'm just looking for the best bang for the buck. Either a B16A2 or the B18C1 are my motor choices. Again, I want to run around 11 sec range(give or take a sec) but still be a daily driver,approx 250-300hp I dunno if that sounds right. I hope this helps some.
They're both superchargers, the difference is how they're driven. To cut it down to basics, a turbo is more efficient because it uses "free" energy in the exhaust gas heat. Turbos are more expensive, so any savings is moot. Crank driven superchargers like the Vortech take power right from your crank, reducing overall output in comparison to a turbo. But because they're crank-powered, they deliver boost right away, helping your low-end significantly. When you have a motor that only goes "bang" twice a revolution, getting extra low-end torque is a very, very good thing!

If you're looking for the best times at the dragstrip, go with the turbo. If you want a more streetable car, get yourself the Vortech. One second difference in the 1/4 mile is HUGE, so you need to decide exactly what your goals are.

To get a 10-11" FWD car on the track, you're going to need to do a lot of things to get power to the ground that will keep it from being street legal. It sounds like you're looking to go racing, so buy yourself a trailer, and start gutting your car. Use the low compression pistons, and turn up the boost. Naturally you're going to need bigger injectors and an aftermarket ECU, so you don't blow the whole thing up.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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thanx slow-n-low...i think i'm gearing myself to the racing end of it like you said so by the time I actually get my car non street legal, I will then lose my inexperienced operator name tag to the insurance company. I'll buy a POS and use that daily and use the civic setup for my weekend galavants. thanx for all your help slow-n-low and everyone else that put there knowledgable info in
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