below horespower ratings
i dont know what the guy was tuning with but i called him he wants to look at it in the quarter my time at best was 15.1 at 90 mph my b16 ran a 15.4 and everyone at the track was telling me i should be about a 14.6 they knew people that had gsr's in there civics thats what they ran stock, when the guy tuned my car in 4th gear redlined blew out a shit load of white smoke i told him bout it he didnt say much except check headgasket and valve seals
First off, if you don't know what he's tuning it with, then he's not tuning it. You need a chipped ecu or a stand alone or a piggyback to do any kind of tuning. Secondly why did you upgrade your fuel pump and injectors to 310cc? Thats why you are running rich right there. The reason you're power is that low is because you are running rich. The stock pump and injectors should easily handle 200 horsepower without meeting maximum duty. Alot of intake manifolds make you lose power until they are tuned too. I've had a problem with tuning before too. I took my gsr which is built all motor with every bolt on you could think of and 11.5:1 c/r, bored .20 over, type r head, intake, throttle body, stage 1 skunk2 cams, cam gears, vafc, etc. It put down a horrible 166 hp to the wheels. I was hoping for about 200hp. It sat on the dyno for 5 hours and this guy didn't have a clue what he was doing. He ended up only charging me an hour because he admitted to not really knowing whats up. It was a mostly V8 dyno performance shop. He told me a piggy back wouldn't work with a ulev (ultra low emissions vehicle) car. Well that was the end of it when he told me that because anybody that knows anything about hondas knows that that is bs. I told him enough, before my engine blew, the way he was fawking it up. I bought an aem stand alone and the car got hit before my next dyno appointment at an import only dyno. Just bought another integra to drop my motor in so we'll see how much power I can get when someone who knows what they are doing tunes my car. If I was you I'd take it to a dyno that is ran by guys who love hondas and have dyno'd them before and know how to make power. They will be able to tell you why your power is the way it is and everything. If you get a piggyback you might be able to still run those injectors and pump. You just gotta pull fuel out of it. You could get a fuel pressure regulator also to pull fuel out of it.
Last edited by vshavoc; Jul 20, 2007 at 10:43 AM.
i dont know what the guy was tuning with but i called him he wants to look at it in the quarter my time at best was 15.1 at 90 mph my b16 ran a 15.4 and everyone at the track was telling me i should be about a 14.6 they knew people that had gsr's in there civics thats what they ran stock, when the guy tuned my car in 4th gear redlined blew out a shit load of white smoke i told him bout it he didnt say much except check headgasket and valve seals
again, your numbers are about average for bolt on's.
sorry, but i think 200whp is a little optimistic. what shop did you take it to? if you're in modesto, i recommend artie at ctr dynosports. he's got a lot of experience with crome and hondata.
the shop i took it too thats all deal with is imports, the guy that tuned it is kinda avoiding me after i called him he said hes been tuning imports for 5 years i guess the plus side is i do have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and i will have a leak down test done asap thanks alot for your input its helped alot
I took it to that dyno shop in oakdale. I think it's called Performance Dyno. The car was running really rich when it was tuned. I was running 390 injectors which was way overkill but I was still learning. It seems like everytime you think you know whats going on something else has to be a learning lesson. I swapped those injectors for prelude sh injectors which are like 290 ccs and bought aem ems. That was also with the stock exhaust and cat. Seeing all these cars with a bunch of garbage parts breaking 200whp makes me think that 200 is gonna be no problem. 166 running rich, without the cam gears being touched, stock exhaust and cat, and no tuning. I've got 9 grand into this and if it doesn't hit 200whp I'm selling it. Do you know how high I need to raise the compression to go to the next bigger camshafts? I want to get more aggresive cams without overcamming it.


