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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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I dont really care which one is better between turbo and SC cuz Ive already decided on the SC, i just want to know which components will produce the most power for a SC b16 with a JRSC? built bottom end and built head, and with the built head, what cams should I use, seeming that there are specifics for turbo specs I would assume the same for SC specs. Also, the jackson racing website doesnt include anything on an intercooler but Ive heard ppl recommend it. Does or did JR produce one and not sell it now, or wat intercooler should I use with the set up.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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The best bet for an intercooled system since the location of the supercharger prevents one from being mounted is water injection. ITR cams will be just fine.

I just don't see the point of a fully built motor that is severely limited by a hunk of shit supercharger that really has little room for upgrades.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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water injected with wat?......and I see the point as going SC is a cheaper setup and easier to maintain in my case. And besides that, everyone and their mom is boostin nowadays, its good to have something a lil different. And I knew someone who had a lot of problems boostin a b16 and it was built with good money spent into it. And I dont see the point of boostin, spending money on bigger turbos, fuel managemet, and then blowin every couple of months and still loosin to stock evos off the line with slicks. A simple SC setup is gonna get me where I wanna go hp wise, I just wanna do it right and make it reliable.

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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Si_Opps2
water injected with wat?......and I see the point as going SC is a cheaper setup and easier to maintain in my case. And besides that, everyone and their mom is boostin nowadays, its good to have something a lil different. And I knew someone who had a lot of problems boostin a b16 and it was built with good money spent into it. And I dont see the point of boostin, spending money on bigger turbos, fuel managemet, and then blowin every couple of months and still loosin to stock evos off the line with slicks. A simple SC setup is gonna get me where I wanna go hp wise, I just wanna do it right and make it reliable.
My knowledge with forced induction is limited but wow... You have been misinform somewhere....

SC and Turbos are only as reliable as the tune. I've known guys running 8-13 daily turboed and have had no problems. No matter what, SC or Boost, if you expect to make any kind of power you need fuel management, with SC, better pulleys, and of course they are losing to stock evos. It's a boosted all wheel drive vehicle against a boosted FWD... :dunno:
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Umm...water injected with water. :thinking:

Sorry to inform you, but a JRSC supercharger is boost too....and that is as popular as a turbo setup since you mentioned that too. If any boosted car blows up, it is either the tune or the builder. You still have to invest in fuel management if you are supercharged or turbo. If you expect reliability with the shit "fuel management" JR provides, you are really living in a fantasy world.

But don't say I didn't warn you when you want more power and can't squeeze anything more out of that junk JRSC.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Judging by your usage of the term "Built" -- Cam's should be the last thing your worried about right now. Do a LOT of research about engines and decide what it is that you want. Learn how they make power, learn compression, and learn about the cost of theese things. Compare Boost setups in general. You'll see that the objective of a Super Charger is generally the same as a turbo. However, one does this much more efficently.

And be fore you degrade what works for everybody else - Check the credibility of you're source. If your friend had bad luck with a turbo setup, and theres lots of people here telling you there good then i wouldn't be so quick to take his advice on getting a JRSC. Im almost positive that the Fuel Delivery on his setup is very similar to that offered by Jackson Racing.

Unless your completely loaded and pay someone to build a motor, You don't just wake up one day and decide you wan't to boost your motor without paying dues first. Click that search button!
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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Look into the LHT intercooler for the JRSC. Custom built air/water intercooler welded right into the manifold. Very nice looking piece. :bowdown:

Like all the others said though, you absolutely need fuel management. JR sells the supercharger in the high boost kit with a Hondata ECU, injectors, and fuel pump. That would be a good place to start if you're not going to assemble your own. Time to learn as much as you can about FI! :wavey:
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RicoD
...and of course they are losing to stock evos. It's a boosted all wheel drive vehicle against a boosted FWD... :dunno:

Thats the whole point, im talking about dudes trying to put over 300 to the wheel and cant hold it down boostin all day, I just dont see the point on FR's. Im not trying to see that much with the SC, and who said I wasnt concerned with tuning?:hahano:
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001TEGGSR
Judging by your usage of the term "Built" -- Cam's should be the last thing your worried about right now. Do a LOT of research about engines and decide what it is that you want. Learn how they make power, learn compression, and learn about the cost of theese things. Compare Boost setups in general. You'll see that the objective of a Super Charger is generally the same as a turbo. However, one does this much more efficently.

And be fore you degrade what works for everybody else - Check the credibility of you're source. If your friend had bad luck with a turbo setup, and theres lots of people here telling you there good then i wouldn't be so quick to take his advice on getting a JRSC. Im almost positive that the Fuel Delivery on his setup is very similar to that offered by Jackson Racing.

Unless your completely loaded and pay someone to build a motor, You don't just wake up one day and decide you wan't to boost your motor without paying dues first. Click that search button!
Already have, the cams were a question because I know that turbo specs require cams to compensate, and that not just any cams would work, so I thought the same for SC.:blah:
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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The stock GSR, or in your case SI camshafts would be sufficent for power your looking to produce. Im not trying to arsonate your questions, but its the best thing you can do. If your dead set on the JRSC, get the kit that comes with hondata. Run some type of forged internals, Eagle H beam's would be good and lower CR pistons of your choice. Use OEM bearings, OEM head gasket, and personally i would get GSR or ITR camshafts. Allow money for dyno time and tune your setup. Good luck!
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