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Old May 19, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Well remember when I said that he wired the fuel pump wrong. This cause cyl 2 to flood with about 2 inches of gas. Then he started to crank the motor over, and we heard this frightful noise, he said its from the starter. So he proceded, heard the noise about 3 times. Turns out the we HYDROLOCKED the motor with gas, and luckily we only blew the headgasket. THe car was expelling a ton of white smoke and running all weird. So i came up with the headgasket being blown by hydrolocking the motor with gas, theory, that proved right... Well this sux. We already took the head off, he'll get me a new gasket and maybe resurface the head (having it inspected by machine shop). Sux that all these things were brand new... I never thought that an engine could become hydrolocked by gas flooding the cyl. but it makes sense... Well hope thats the last of my problems with this thing
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Well, I finally found my list of '95 Integra ECU wiring...

A01 INJ1 (brn) injector 1 (ECU closes ground to fire)
A02 INJ4 (yel) injector 4 (close ground to fire)
A03 INJ2 (red) injector 2 (close ground to fire)
A04 VT SOL (grn/yel) VTEC solenoid valve (B18C1 only)
(VTEC solenoid valve is self-grounded)
A05 INJ3 (blu) injector 3 (close ground to fire)
A06 O2SHTC (orn/blk) O2 sensor heater (close ground to turn on)
A07 FLR1 (grn/blu) fuelpump relay (close ground to run)

A09 IACV (blk/blu) idle control valve (close ground)

A12 FANC (grn) radiator & condenser fan relays
A13 MIL (grn/orn) MIL lamp (close ground to light)

A15 ACC (blk/red) A/C clutch relay
A16 ALT C (wht/grn) alternator (control?)
A17 IAB CS (pnk/blu) IAB control solenoid valve (B18C1 only)
(yel/blk) IAB powered from term.2 of main relay

A19 FAS (yel) to TCM (auto trans only)
A20 PCS (red) EVAP purge control solenoid valve
A21 ICM 1 (yel/grn) to ICM

A23 PG1 (blk) power supply ground G101
A24 PG2 (blk) power supply ground G101
A25 IGP1 (yel/blk) 12v power from main relay (2)
A26 LG1 (brn/blk) ground G101


B01 IGP2 (yel/blk) 12v power from main relay (2)
B02 LG2 (brn/blk) ground G101
B03 AFSA (grn/blu) to TCM (auto trans only)
B04 AFSB (gry) to TCM (auto trans only)
B05 ACS (blu/red) A/C switch

B07 ATP PN (lt grn/blk) auto trans (grounded in P or N)
B08 PSP SW (grn) PSP switch (power steering pressure??)
B09 STS (blu/wht) start signal
B10 VSS (orn) signal from VSS
B11 CYP P (orn) (shielded)
B12 CYP M (wht)
B13 TDC P (orn/blu) (shielded)
B14 TDC M (wht/blu)
B15 CKP P (blu/grn) (shielded)
B16 CKP M (blu/yel)


D01 VBU (wht/blu) battery via backup fuse
D02 BKSW (grn/wht) brake switch
D03 KS (red/blu) knock sensor (B18C1 only)
D04 SCS (brn/wht) service check connector

D06 VTP SW (blu/blk) VTEC pressure switch (B18C1 only)
(VTEC pressure switch ground G101 @ T-stat)
D07 TXD/RXD (lt blu) data link connector
D08 BARO OUT (lt grn) to TCM (auto trans only)
D09 ALT F (wht/red) alternator (charging rate signal)
D10 ELD (grn/red) electrical load detector (USA only)
D11 TPS (red/blk) throttle position signal

D13 ECT (red/wht) ECT sensor
D14 O2S (wht/red) signal from O2 sensor
D15 IAT (red/yel) IAT sensor
D16 VREF (wht/blk) to TCM (auto trans only)
D17 MAP PB (wht/yel) MAP sensor signal?

D19 VCC1 (yel/wht) power to MAP sensor?
D20 VCC2 (yel/blu) power to TP sensor?
D21 SG1 (grn/wht) signal ground?
D22 SG2 (grn/blu) signal ground (O2s?)
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Old May 21, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 95LSv
Well remember when I said that he wired the fuel pump wrong. This cause cyl 2 to flood with about 2 inches of gas. Then he started to crank the motor over, and we heard this frightful noise, he said its from the starter. So he proceded, heard the noise about 3 times. Turns out the we HYDROLOCKED the motor with gas, and luckily we only blew the headgasket. THe car was expelling a ton of white smoke and running all weird. So i came up with the headgasket being blown by hydrolocking the motor with gas, theory, that proved right... Well this sux. We already took the head off, he'll get me a new gasket and maybe resurface the head (having it inspected by machine shop). Sux that all these things were brand new... I never thought that an engine could become hydrolocked by gas flooding the cyl. but it makes sense... Well hope thats the last of my problems with this thing
Ahh hydrolock, Damn stupid Cold Air intakes do the same thing...
Hydrolock happens because liquid is incompressible, so it will happen with any liquid including gas...
Did you check your rods??? Make sure you do, because my motor got hydrolocked after it sucked water in through the CAI, before there were such things as AEM bypass filters... And my head gasket wasn't even blown...
My number 1 cylinder ConRod was bent like a banana...
Make sure it didn't bend it because if so, you gotta tear down the whole motor
Besides who does your work?? I'd make him pay for it b/c obviously he doesn't know what he's doing if he's cranking it with ANY visible liquid in the cylinders...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Yea, it was my friend but he replaced everything for free. I was lucky enough that the head gasket went out, because in such cases there would be no further damage, and also i was cranking the motor to start it, and the starter should not have enough power to bent a rod... am i right?
Thanx for all your help
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Old May 22, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 95LSv
... and the starter should not have enough power to bent a rod... am i right?
That's usually true (but not always). It's the momentum from higher RPM that does the damage, so your starter might have been spinning the engine at maybe 200 rpm. That's usually not fast enough to bend a rod.

For the injectors, each one is supposed to get (+) battery voltage from the main relay as long as the key is turned on. The ECU closes & opens the ground side of the circuit to fire each injector. Remove the pin(s) for whatever injector is flooding, to see whether the injector continues to spray. You should be able to make the injector fire by shorting it's ECU wire to ground. There's probably still an injector circuit that's wired wrong.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Well the ecu doesn't throw anymore codes... All the wires were matched correctly, all my injectors were matched and i doulble checked it... Could the misfiring be from my distributor not being timed??
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Old May 25, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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misfiring is from your misfiring system....evos do the same thing when properly tuned for downhill runs on akina. (anyone who uses this sentence as a signature will be dead!!!) allright...all jokes aside. lol if your only sympton is backfiring now...i would double check your firing order. spark plug wires probaly in the wrong order.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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Did you ever check whether any of the injectors is leaking? IOW, spraying fuel even when it's NOT being fired by the ECU?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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yea its fixed, my friend who wired the ecu left the fuel pump and inj. 2 wires uncovered (he did not crimp them as supposed to) so they touched and thats what cause the continuous spraying while ign. was on. But yea i went back and redid everything right and now im glad to say its working great.
Thanx for the replies
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