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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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I'm just looking to get some info on the right EMS for a fully built jdm H22 thats going to be running high boost with a turbonetics T/3 T/4. The car will not be daily driven, and there is no budget.
Fill my brain, who has experience? Hondata/AEM why? thanks
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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IF there is no budget, the EMS is my pick, hands down. It has better features and will make the car run flawlessly if tuned correctly.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Agreed, Shmoo. But, also consider Neptune. It's better then Hondata imho.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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thanks guys, Is the AEM easy to work with, or am I going to have to hire somebody, Also what size injectors? fuel pump? The motor is bullet proof so I plan to run high boost 20-30 psi. What are my limits with the Turbonetics T3/T4?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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AEM is very advanced. If you don't know anything about fuel/timing maps & tuning, I'd definitely hire someone.

If you're money situation is 'limitless', why use a T3/T4? Why not get a real turbo like a high-end Garrett or Precision? My Garrett T3/T04E pushed about 23 psi on the manifold/piping I had. I really needed a bigger turbo to get into the 500+ whp stats. T3/T4 sounds like it would be your weak link based on what you're talking about power/motor-wise.

As for injectors, I'd go with 1000cc Precisions. Fuel pump, possibly an in-tank 255 LPH (high pressure) Walbro. You'd need at least that to push 30 psi (depending on compression/tune).

You're really talking some serious stuff here for not really knowing much about the different options in detail that are available to you. If you plan to build this yourself, consider speaking directly with a tuner to advise you on what you should get as they know what will be required fuel-wise.

I recommend servion (Jeremey) as he is a very experienced AEM, Hondata, Neptune tuner. He'll point you in the right direction from a tuner's perspective.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Well, I bought the turbonetics kit two years and didnt really have plans to go to crazy. But then I blew the motor, so I figured if the motor is out why not get it rebuilt?So I ended up doing everything- sleeves, pistons,rods and also ferrea head parts.

So, I really dont want to get into getting another turbo, manifold,piping,intercooler etc.
I mean I never even got the chance to try out the T3-T4. This car is not going to be full drag, I will drive it on the street, but I would also like to pick on a good percentage of the street cars.
I guess my goals would be 300-400hp and some where in the 12 second rage.
So do you think the Turbonetics T3-T4 is capable? What are its limits?
I work with a good friend of mine on this, he is a auto tech with experience on turbos and also engine tuning, but I figured I save him some time, thats why I'm hear. thanks a lot.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Definitely capable. I ran 12.6 @ 112 on 12.6 psi making 298 whp on Falken Ziex street tires on my mildly built (at the time) B18C1 '95 Civic Sedan. The H22 will be able to put 300 whp down easily on that turbo with the sleeves and the right tune.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Thanks- The turbo kit came with 2"-2.5" intercooler piping, 2" inlet and 2.5" outlet, I could have it backwards, and 2.5" downpipe and I ended up getting 2.5" exhaust at the time. I was wondering if I have to upgrade to 3", or will it make that much of a difference?, is it worth it? Will I still make pretty good power with the 2-2.5"?
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I had 2-2.5" piping and a 2.5" exhuast. You'll be fine.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks for your help. I'm dropping the motor in this weekend, I'll keep you posted on progress, Im sure I'll have some questions down the line.
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