Its been a little while since i've posted here, i've been really busy lately...but anywho...i'm looking into a swap for my EG...i was gonna go D16...but things went south...the guy that wanted to sell it to me was just tryin to scam me...the shops around my house want to rape you with prices on a D16...soo...after all of that crap...i'll wind up having a pretty decent amout of money for my EG hatchie next summer....so i'm wondering...what would be better, an LS swap or an H22 swap?....i know the H22 will be heck more power...but i'm more of an autocrosser than a drag man....and i've always heard ppl complain about the H22 being much heavier and worse for handling....but i would love the extra power for a couple hundred more...on the other hand...the LS swap is lighter and would prolly be better handling wise..but would be bout 50-60hp short compared to the H22...so help me out here guys...what would you do? Figure about 3G for the swap shipped.

 

The H22 is a hell of a lot more expensive.
How about something in the middle like a B16A or B18C?

 

d16? do you mean b16? ok well yea h22's are pretty heavy and to the typical honda enthusiast, well that would be going against the rules heh. it really depends on what engine you want.. now honda is known for having sooo many diffrent engines.. how much money can you spend? do you wanna go NA or boost? id probably have to say that honda's top b series engins for all motor applications would be b16's, j-spec ctr, b18c1's, c5's, or b20/vtec... now if you wanted to go boost, which is gonna cost you a shit load of cash.. well first of all with boost applications you're gonna be better off going with an a-spec honda motor.. the reason for that is that all honda a-spec engines are lower compression.. b16's (si) are really popular for boost and so are b18c1's (gsr). these are probably some of the most popular around out of the newer gen of b series engines. one of the less expensive but deadly routes would be b18b (ls)... or if you really wanna make a scene go b20 boost.. now b20's are crv engines.. yes some applications are awd but that wont be an issue.. if you are planning to go b20 boost, be prepared to have ALOT of money.. this was once my dream and there was no way possible that i could ever achieve it.. well i could have but other things became more important in my life... i have only seen 1 b20/boost car at all of the car shows i've been to.. now if you watch any of that sport compact drag shtuff.. well most of the big honda teams are using b20's. so you get the idea of the potential there.. i could probably write about this for hours and hours.. if you need any help on setups or idea's, dont hesitate to ask.. peace

whoops... yea if you didnt know what a c5 is, the correct code is b18c5 (itr). now c5's are also known as the chasis code on the newer corvettes.. now if any of you are up on the gm/honda manufacture war... well gm released the c5 to get back at honda.. although gm has been on track to meet this chasis code for quite a few years.. so it could probably go either way.. not even many enthusiasts know about this... id probably have to say that c5's, b18c1's and b20/vtec has the strongest all motor setups of any honda or acura engines.. beside the nsx... wait whats the engine code in an nsx? yea... hope this helped a little....

 

I got a headache trying to decipher that.

 

WhatNow...i don't wanna sound like i know everything honda...but...everything you said...yeah...didn't really need it....you seem pretty knowledgeable and i'm sure you could help...but i was thinking H22 because everyone goes B-series, i kinda just wanted to look into other options...yes i want to boost...and i figured that if i started with 200hp, it would be alot easier to make more hp/tq....if it's going to make huge effects on my handling, i'll look into something else....i'd like to be able to pull about a 13 flat in the quarter eventually...without the aid of nitrous....maybe i'll just stick with my turbo D16 idea....anyone else with suggestions? i'd really like more info on the H22 swaps if anyone out there has done one....thanks!

ok...let me just clear this up....my only real question is this:

If i swap an H22 into my EG hatch, will it make it a terrible autocrossing car?

just another thought...what about a B20?? it's lighter isn't it? would it be better for autocrossin?

 

my bad i didnt think you knew that much considering that you were gonna swap a d16 in heh.. yea i dunno if you wanna be a little diffrent go h22 but there isnt as much aftermarket technology into them.. yea they can be fast and they are a bit on the heavy side but so are b20's.. im not sure on the weight diffrence... maybe some1 else out there will find some kind of intrest in that 5 minutes of typing and thought that i put into that post...

 

Go B series VTEC mang.

 

but everyone has a Bseries....what i should do is a freakin northstar swap....

 

go with an F series VTEC. They are cheap and easily tuned in a light HB. And another note is they almost look like a D series in the engine bay.

 

I have a H22 in a del sol. If you are going to be doing any kind of autoX stay away from the 22. They are almost 100 lbs heavier in the front of a car which is already nose heavy. For the extra money that you save do pistons/cams/ignition/fuel and you will be pushing as much power with less weight.