Engine wizards -- can you call this one?
Originally Posted by ludeboom
that parts website isnt accurate guy, at no point is honda at fault here, the honda part numbers were different. that belt part # from the SKU is probably not a genuine honda belt. if it is genuine than again its the wholesalers fault or whoever put in the SKU code.
and ebay is ebay
~boom
and ebay is ebay
~boom
I also obviously agree with you that the staff at this dealer site messed up the SKU transcription. But I continue to maintain that Honda's part numbering system is a problem here. A part that looks similar but isn't functionally compatible needs to have not only a different part number, but a visibly much different part number.
And other non-part-number codes should not be shared across similar-but-incompatible parts. Both the GSR and the Type R belt say "126RU26" on them, in the largest lettering on the belt. Easy to make a mistake.
The LS/RS belt says "125RU26". That reflects good practice. Greatly reduced risk of a mixup with a GSR 126RU26 unit.
If they had carried over that nomenclature and changed the leading numeric, I would have looked at my old GSR belt, which says "126RU26" and then looked at the R belt saying "127RU26", and that would have been much more obvious. And I probably wouldn't have wasted any time at all on this matter.
As noted, other people are obviously experiencing the same confusion as I did (including probably some parts desks in the dealer network).
As far as ebay goes, I've bought lots of parts there and have only rarely had bad experiences. I have never been burned by any seller with 100% positive feedback and over 50 sales. People who have worked that hard to build a good record are pretty protective of it.
Anyway, following up on the trick to artificially tighten the belt by pulling on the tensioner spring during the tensioning procedure -- it seems to have worked as intended. Engine has been running fine and making good power from idle to redline. I'm still mildly nervous about pushing this hack hard, and I will probably put a proper GSR belt in the engine in a few weeks, but for now the car runs happily.
Originally Posted by ChrisGSR
And other non-part-number codes should not be shared across similar-but-incompatible parts. Both the GSR and the Type R belt say "126RU26" on them, in the largest lettering on the belt. Easy to make a mistake.
The LS/RS belt says "125RU26". That reflects good practice. Greatly reduced risk of a mixup with a GSR 126RU26 unit..
The LS/RS belt says "125RU26". That reflects good practice. Greatly reduced risk of a mixup with a GSR 126RU26 unit..
the LS/RS belt is a non-vtec head
the GSR is a VTEC head
the ITR is a VTEC head
in fact the GSR and ITR head are very similiar, and are also probably of a similiar casting. meaning that is why they have the same initial part #
but again ITR definitely has different cams, so i would imagine that small differences between two similiar motors...like cams or cam gears...would translate into a small numerical difference in part numbers.
~boom
Maybe a CRX engine belt? It's a B-series with Vtec and the deck is just a weeee-bit taller than the GS-R and the Type-R.
Good luck on the tapping problem. My car suffered from this for about a year until I finally got so tired of it and the shoddy machine work I had done to try to fix it that I had to junk the block and bought a B18C from japan. Keep looking though. Ensure your valves are checked good and that there's no flat spots on the cams. Compression and leakdown checks are great too. Take a crack at it and don't get frustrated. It's general advice, but it's very easy with a problem like this to get frustrated and start making mistakes.
Good luck on the tapping problem. My car suffered from this for about a year until I finally got so tired of it and the shoddy machine work I had done to try to fix it that I had to junk the block and bought a B18C from japan. Keep looking though. Ensure your valves are checked good and that there's no flat spots on the cams. Compression and leakdown checks are great too. Take a crack at it and don't get frustrated. It's general advice, but it's very easy with a problem like this to get frustrated and start making mistakes.
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