2nd Follow-Up on Start Problem: Problem ID'd
02-21-2005, 03:38 PM
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2nd Follow-Up on Start Problem: Problem ID'd
Those of you who have been following my other post, first, thank you for your help. Ya'll give me squishy feelings.
Anyways, I think I've nailed the problem: flooding. I found that if I unplugged the fuel injectors and cranked the car, I could get it to run a few seconds at a time. But if I plugged them in, I got nothing but cranking.
So, where should I start trying to fix this? My manual doesn't seem to have anything (but the Haynes manual index sucks balls). I've heard of charcoal canisters malfunctioning and causing rich-running situations, but I'm going to start by assuming that the most common problems are what's going on here. Rule out timing. I've redone that f*ing T-belt a dozen times by now, and the dizzy is dead center.
Anyways, I think I've nailed the problem: flooding. I found that if I unplugged the fuel injectors and cranked the car, I could get it to run a few seconds at a time. But if I plugged them in, I got nothing but cranking.
So, where should I start trying to fix this? My manual doesn't seem to have anything (but the Haynes manual index sucks balls). I've heard of charcoal canisters malfunctioning and causing rich-running situations, but I'm going to start by assuming that the most common problems are what's going on here. Rule out timing. I've redone that f*ing T-belt a dozen times by now, and the dizzy is dead center.
02-21-2005, 04:18 PM
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Isn't there a fuel pressure sensor/valve on the backside of the intake manifold?
Maybe, that's not working and causing too much fuel pressure which causes the flooding.
Maybe, that's not working and causing too much fuel pressure which causes the flooding.
02-21-2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jaje
i posted this in the other thread until i saw this one...it could be your injector resistor box
02-22-2005, 05:12 PM
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Hey all. I've replaced both the fuel pressure regulator and the injector resistor box, and I'm still getting the same symptoms. What's more, now my brand new spark plugs are totally fouled. I've attached a picture. This happened after only about 4-5 seconds of running. If I plug in the injectors and attempt to start the car, it seems the cylinders fill with fuel, and when I unplug the injectors and start the car, I can get the car running for a number of seconds, but when I do it fouls the plugs.
I'll test injectors next.
I'm getting a really violent knock when I try to start the car, which for now I'm just going to assume is a byproduct of having so much fuel in the cylinders. Makes me nervous as hell, though.
I'll test injectors next.
I'm getting a really violent knock when I try to start the car, which for now I'm just going to assume is a byproduct of having so much fuel in the cylinders. Makes me nervous as hell, though.
02-23-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jaje
if you are getting a violent knock then i'd bet the timing is off which can explain the fouled plugs
As for the fuel problem, I'd really like to test the injectors only as a last resort. In the meantime, what do you guys think about this. I found it online while I was searching for a solution for my problem:
Originally Posted by Random website
Anyways, while my Camry was being checked for the flooding engine problem,
they figured out what was really wrong. They said that when the charcoal
canister failed, that a piece of charcoal was sucked up into the VSV valve
causing it to remain open. The receipt that I was given following this 2
day repair listed two parts:
CANISTER ASSY, CH 77740-06091
VALVE, DUTY VAC 90910-12150
The first part appears to be another charcoal canister (or perhaps it was
never replaced during the earlier visit when I was told that it was and
wasn't provided a receipt). The second part is the valve which I believe is
located under the plastic V6 bank cover. In any event, the repair solved
all of the problems (check engine light, TRAC OFF light, engine flooding,
cold engine multiple start attempts). The O2 sensor that they had ordered
was never installed.
they figured out what was really wrong. They said that when the charcoal
canister failed, that a piece of charcoal was sucked up into the VSV valve
causing it to remain open. The receipt that I was given following this 2
day repair listed two parts:
CANISTER ASSY, CH 77740-06091
VALVE, DUTY VAC 90910-12150
The first part appears to be another charcoal canister (or perhaps it was
never replaced during the earlier visit when I was told that it was and
wasn't provided a receipt). The second part is the valve which I believe is
located under the plastic V6 bank cover. In any event, the repair solved
all of the problems (check engine light, TRAC OFF light, engine flooding,
cold engine multiple start attempts). The O2 sensor that they had ordered
was never installed.
http://yotarepair.com/dealerstories.html
Is this possible for my situation?