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augy Feb 21, 2005 03:38 PM

2nd Follow-Up on Start Problem: Problem ID'd
 
Those of you who have been following my other post, first, thank you for your help. Ya'll give me squishy feelings.
Anyways, I think I've nailed the problem: flooding. I found that if I unplugged the fuel injectors and cranked the car, I could get it to run a few seconds at a time. But if I plugged them in, I got nothing but cranking.
So, where should I start trying to fix this? My manual doesn't seem to have anything (but the Haynes manual index sucks balls). I've heard of charcoal canisters malfunctioning and causing rich-running situations, but I'm going to start by assuming that the most common problems are what's going on here. Rule out timing. I've redone that f*ing T-belt a dozen times by now, and the dizzy is dead center.

ChrisS Feb 21, 2005 04:18 PM

Isn't there a fuel pressure sensor/valve on the backside of the intake manifold?

Maybe, that's not working and causing too much fuel pressure which causes the flooding.

augy Feb 21, 2005 04:27 PM

Yeah, that's what I'm guessing, but I'd like to be sure that there's nothing else I should be looking at before I order the part.

jaje Feb 21, 2005 07:18 PM

i posted this in the other thread until i saw this one...it could be your injector resistor box

augy Feb 21, 2005 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by jaje
i posted this in the other thread until i saw this one...it could be your injector resistor box

... where the hell is that? :)

Exempt Feb 22, 2005 09:04 AM

Open your hood, its on the Driver's side by the windsheild... Looks like a mini audio amp...

augy Feb 22, 2005 05:12 PM

Hey all. I've replaced both the fuel pressure regulator and the injector resistor box, and I'm still getting the same symptoms. What's more, now my brand new spark plugs are totally fouled. I've attached a picture. This happened after only about 4-5 seconds of running. If I plug in the injectors and attempt to start the car, it seems the cylinders fill with fuel, and when I unplug the injectors and start the car, I can get the car running for a number of seconds, but when I do it fouls the plugs.
I'll test injectors next.
I'm getting a really violent knock when I try to start the car, which for now I'm just going to assume is a byproduct of having so much fuel in the cylinders. Makes me nervous as hell, though.

augy Feb 22, 2005 05:21 PM

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whoops, here it is.

jaje Feb 22, 2005 05:39 PM

if you are getting a violent knock then i'd bet the timing is off which can explain the fouled plugs

augy Feb 23, 2005 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by jaje
if you are getting a violent knock then i'd bet the timing is off which can explain the fouled plugs

Yeah, you'd think, but the belt and dizzy are dead on and I had my friend hold a timing light while I was starting. He said timing was fine.

As for the fuel problem, I'd really like to test the injectors only as a last resort. In the meantime, what do you guys think about this. I found it online while I was searching for a solution for my problem:


Originally Posted by Random website
Anyways, while my Camry was being checked for the flooding engine problem,
they figured out what was really wrong. They said that when the charcoal
canister failed, that a piece of charcoal was sucked up into the VSV valve
causing it to remain open. The receipt that I was given following this 2
day repair listed two parts:
CANISTER ASSY, CH 77740-06091
VALVE, DUTY VAC 90910-12150
The first part appears to be another charcoal canister (or perhaps it was
never replaced during the earlier visit when I was told that it was and
wasn't provided a receipt). The second part is the valve which I believe is
located under the plastic V6 bank cover. In any event, the repair solved
all of the problems (check engine light, TRAC OFF light, engine flooding,
cold engine multiple start attempts). The O2 sensor that they had ordered
was never installed.

Here's a link to the site directly. It's down the page a bit, search for the first couple words of the quote if you want to find it:
http://yotarepair.com/dealerstories.html

Is this possible for my situation?


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