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Old 11-30-2002, 07:03 PM
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I am trying to figure out how to read the specs on an amp. I know that my MTX T410X3 takes 4 ohm 600W RMS/ 1200W total. I am not EXACTLY sure what that means, but I know I should be getting an amp that puts out about 600W RMS (right?)(and how much leeway is in that figure? Could I use a 800W X 1?)

I have a MTX 6152 which is putting out 325W on a 4 ohm load, which explains why it frequently overheats and goes into thermal protection!

I am looking to find an amp to run just my T410X3 subs. I see amps that say 2 x 750W Rms @ 4 Ohm Stereo, does that mean I can bridge the two channels and get 1500W X1 @ 4 ohms? Is that the correlation between the channels and the output?

Okay, on to the ohms... If the specs are 750W X1 @ 2 ohm, what is it a 4 ohm? Can I run it @ 4 ohm?
Old 11-30-2002, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by BasicJim
I am trying to figure out how to read the specs on an amp. I know that my MTX T410X3 takes 4 ohm 600W RMS/ 1200W total. I am not EXACTLY sure what that means, but I know I should be getting an amp that puts out about 600W RMS (right?)(and how much leeway is in that figure? Could I use a 800W X 1?)
the MTX T410X3 is the 3 subs in a box right? those 3 subs have a final impedance of 4OHM. so you will want to looks for an amp that plays its best @4OHM. so look for an amp that is 600watts @ 4OHM. the 1200watt is just a number that a company uses to sell the product. forget about the "total" or "max" or "peak" numbers.

a 800watt x1 @4OHM would work. but that would be an expensive amp. just get the 600watt.

Originally posted by BasicJim

I have a MTX 6152 which is putting out 325W on a 4 ohm load, which explains why it frequently overheats and goes into thermal protection!

http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/pro...hunder6152.cfm

it gives out no where near 325watts @ 4OHM according to their site.

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Okay, on to the ohms... If the specs are 750W X1 @ 2 ohm, what is it a 4 ohm? Can I run it @ 4 ohm?
then it SHOULD be half of that, 375 watts x1 @ 4OHM. you can run it at that impedance, but why waste the power?
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Old 11-30-2002, 10:46 PM
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this is how this works...power extracted from the amp is based on the wiring of you sub(s). most times, multi-channel amps will usually have 3 power levels - one at 4 ohms stereo, another at 2 ohms stereo, and finally one at bridged 4 ohm mode; and when i say stereo, i mean the channels are not bridged. single channel or mono amps do not have the bridged rating. if you don't see it already, the power rating usually work like this...power at 4 ohm stereo is doubled when the amp is running 2 ohm stereo (same number of channels in use) and is quadrupled when you bridge two channels down to only one (still at 4 ohms). the rms rating on a sub is power that it can handle well under normal, prolonged playing while the peak power rating is for those times when the music dangerously bursts out for a very, very short time.

so let's dissect your system...you are running an real mtx enclosure with three 10" subs right? based on their website, the subs are wired together to ultimately produce a 4 ohm load. your amp is a two channel amp that can put out power at either system voltage of 12.5 or 14.4. i highly doubt your car is running 14.4 consistently (requires a lot of upgrading and/or multiple batteries and/or alternator work), so your amp is more than likely putting power based on the 12.5 rating. specifically, 37.5x2 at 4-ohm stereo or 75x2 at 2-ohm stereo or 150x1 at 4-ohm bridged. and why would an amp overheat if it is capable and rated to put out 325w...have you rewired the subs int he box yourself??? so basically, all three subs are either getting only 37.5w or 150w (the box is a 4 ohm). to determine power to each sub, you basically divide by the number of subs...37.5/3 or 150/3. you should see that is not much! i take that each sub in the box is a t4104a that is rated to take 200w rms and 400w peak. now if you work that equation backwards...knowing that each sub can take 200w rms, you basically multiply that by 3 to figure out the amp's power. so you need an amp that will put out 600w with a single channel or two channels bridged. if you like, you can get an amp that puts out a little more than that because most subs are built tough. that amp that is 2x750w amp is more than good enough. you actually don't want to bridge that amp because this would mean each sub is getting 500w rms...the subs could blow if you turned it up high and long enough!
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Wow!!

Thank you both for that!!

I know that I need a new amp and fully intend to get one, but hypothetically speaking, would it be benificial to rewire the T410X3 in series vice parallel to lower the impedence to 2 ohm? That would take the ouput of the amp to 300W bridged, right?

If I get an amp that puts out 2 X 750W, what happens to the other channel if I am just running it to my subs?




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