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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by AcuraFanatic™
That's fine. I never said you SHOULD do it either, all you do is save time from shifting from one gear to the next. A lot of race car drivers do this a lot just to save a second or two at the most.

I would never do it because it's pointless and more wear. Your original post just sounded as if it is catastrophic to do so, and I wanted to point out the differences in redline and fuel cutoff, and why there is such a difference.
no i didnt mean it like that at all.... i understand exactly what your saying.....

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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just because mapping sounds like a good answer and tends to be the consensus doesn't mean it's right... mapping doesn't change over time... you don't have wear and tear on mapping... still feel smart?

and you still haven't ruled out the possibility that their maybe something wrong with your car or maybe it's just general wear and tear from you dumping on the gas all the time...

and i have yet to find a car that will go into first gear at that speed... if you know of one, tell him to change his trans...
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by 99accord
just because mapping sounds like a good answer and tends to be the consensus doesn't mean it's right... mapping doesn't change over time... you don't have wear and tear on mapping... still feel smart?

and you still haven't ruled out the possibility that their maybe something wrong with your car or maybe it's just general wear and tear from you dumping on the gas all the time...

and i have yet to find a car that will go into first gear at that speed... if you know of one, tell him to change his trans...
Mapping doesn't change, correct. But it does adjust shift points according to throttle input, which is the point I initially tried to make.
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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true...
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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wow...............a really long thread huh? can I ask something real quick? Say, for some honda cars, such as accord, the max torque and HP you achieve is about 4500 RPM and after. Would it be slower if you decide to shift it at 6000+ since it would cause a huge RPM drop between gears?

I thought shifting near readline on auto tranny would help at first, but some how, After many tries, I found out that it actually make my car slower than when i shift at 5000-5500 RPM. I've tried it many time, on my hybrid and my gf 94 stock. The engine just ROAR louder at 6000 RPM and the car is slower as if its speed is dropping. When I shifted at about 5000 RPM, it doesn't roar at all and felt like the car just get boosted????
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 11:52 PM
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the reason we rev higher than our peak is so when we shift the engine is revving on the incline of the powerband on the next gear if not the peak... i hope that makes sense...
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by 99accord
the reason we rev higher than our peak is so when we shift the engine is revving on the incline of the powerband on the next gear if not the peak... i hope that makes sense...
I do realize that, but why do I go faster if I shift at 5000 RPM than 6000 RPM?
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by 99accord
just because mapping sounds like a good answer and tends to be the consensus doesn't mean it's right... mapping doesn't change over time... you don't have wear and tear on mapping... still feel smart?

and you still haven't ruled out the possibility that their maybe something wrong with your car or maybe it's just general wear and tear from you dumping on the gas all the time...

and i have yet to find a car that will go into first gear at that speed... if you know of one, tell him to change his trans...
Do you feel smart? You're the guy who said it was the damn rev limiter :dunno: Mapping can be different for each gear. Maybe it's never redlined in second, I just never noticed it. There's nothing wrong with my car or transmission...I have her serviced every so often at the Honda dealership so they can check everything out and I have friends who have had cars with bad trannies. It's obvious when they start going.
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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yes, mapping can and does change for each gear... so what's the problem? you wanted possibilities and that's what you got... why are you complaining? because someone said that there may be something wrong with your car? when you run hard you risk that chance...

maybe your accord doesn't like you anymore... lol...
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Old Mar 23, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by 99accord


and i have yet to find a car that will go into first gear at that speed... if you know of one, tell him to change his trans...
not to be a smart ass, but do you actively search out cars that can do this? DO you drive cars at 90 and then try and drop them into first? You are scary.....


Except for cars with sport shift (like preludes or the sport mode on regular bimmers) where the computer actually checks the rpm of the gear your downshifting into, you you can overrev a manual or automatic by dropping down too many gears....I believe you can overrev on the Ferrari clutchless setup and I'm positive you can with SMG on the M3 despite it being monitored by the computer...fuel cutoff will not save you at this point....

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