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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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can somone tell me what controls the amount of fuel sprayed into the cylinder at startup? i'm still having the rough start problem with my 97 accord standard 4 cyl. i turned the key to start and heard the fuel pump pressurize the system and gave it a half crank.i then pulled all 4 plugs, all were wet with gas.1 and 2 were really soaked (dripping).what would cause this?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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the pcm does this but supposedly for only 2 seconds just to wet the manifold then it should turn off until you crank the motor.

if the injectors continue to spray after the first 2 seconds before startup, then your pcm is bad
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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if i crank the engine while the plugs are out ,should i be able see a noticeable fuel vapor spray out of each spark plug hole ?
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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yes and with the spark plugs off plus the compression going on, gas vapors should be coming out the plug holes .
carefull its a fire hazard
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Old May 7, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cruzalekz
yes and with the spark plugs off plus the compression going on, gas vapors should be coming out the plug holes .
carefull its a fire hazard
+1. also, how many miles are on the car? when was the fuel filter last replaced? the lightest cycle of spray from your injectors is at initial crank. any junk in your fuel filter can be affecting at start up but not during normal running conditions (higher fuel pressure).
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Old May 9, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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I've not dealt with what I would call a "rough start" issue on my car, but I know that on my current civic, you want to wait for the CEL to go off before you start the engine cold, but if it's warm enough that the temp. gauge shows anything, you want to crank the starter immediately and not wait for the fuel pump to run - waiting for that, then cranking on a warm or fully up to temp. engine will result in it turning over several times before it starts, whereas starting as soon as you insert the key gives an immediate startup as you'd expect from a warm engine.
I've investigated several things and I'm quite confident the issue is the engine actually getting too much fuel (in the initial "wetting" spray) on warm startup, whether the fault is the ECU(not my guess) or one/some of the components in the fuel system.

You may have already tried this, but if not, do what I've been doing: you can let the pump run like normal (until CEL turns off) before you crank the starter if the engine is cold, but if it's warm or has been driven fairly recently, just turn the key directly to crank w/o waiting. If that doesn't help at all, or it's seems to but it's random, off and on, etc. than it's probably not that it's getting too much fuel during that 2second pre-start spray, but something else (fuel-related or otherwise).
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