Nuespeed or CL-S Swaybar?
Originally posted by 99accord
i was looking at the neuspeeds myself...
i was looking at the neuspeeds myself...
But I want to get the specs on the TL-s and decide if the extra
30-40 dollars is worth it for the Neuspeed. I think the Comptechs
are a little too much for me. I've only looked in a couple places
but they are all selling for $300, they are solid though.
Maybe a little out of my price range. I wanted to spend that
much on Swaybar, strut brace, and the rest go towards a set of
springs. That would wipe me out. I may look around for cheap
Comptechs a little bit more, I could compromise if I find one cheap.
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Originally posted by AcuraFanatic
The CL-S's will bolt right into the Accord. And while I hate to advertise their site, check out www.acura-tl.com for really dirt cheap prices.
The CL-S's will bolt right into the Accord. And while I hate to advertise their site, check out www.acura-tl.com for really dirt cheap prices.
Is this site good for the aftermarket stuff (Neuspeed, Eibach)
or factory TL-s swaybars. I can't seem to find the factory stuff
but found plenty of aftermarket.
Originally posted by Blikkem
Is this site good for the aftermarket stuff (Neuspeed, Eibach)
or factory TL-s swaybars. I can't seem to find the factory stuff
but found plenty of aftermarket.
Is this site good for the aftermarket stuff (Neuspeed, Eibach)
or factory TL-s swaybars. I can't seem to find the factory stuff
but found plenty of aftermarket.
Originally posted by v6master
are we talking both the front and rear sways or just the rear? Can't beat the comptech sways imo.......but I've also ridden in an AV6 with TL-S sways and it seemed pretty nice.........for the money I would get the CL-S or TL-S sways (same thing).......you aren't gonna be able to tell much of a difference between the neuspeeds and the tl ones. I actually prefer TL-S parts whenever I can get them and they will fit.......I thought the TL-S strut tower brace was a great deal at $40, and in my opinion it's better quality than the neuspeed one.
are we talking both the front and rear sways or just the rear? Can't beat the comptech sways imo.......but I've also ridden in an AV6 with TL-S sways and it seemed pretty nice.........for the money I would get the CL-S or TL-S sways (same thing).......you aren't gonna be able to tell much of a difference between the neuspeeds and the tl ones. I actually prefer TL-S parts whenever I can get them and they will fit.......I thought the TL-S strut tower brace was a great deal at $40, and in my opinion it's better quality than the neuspeed one.
Originally posted by Accord2k1
Do you have a picture of the TL-S strut tower brace?
Do you have a picture of the TL-S strut tower brace?
Good grief. Please read my extensive review of the Acura CL Type S rear sway bar. EDIT: I'll post up the link later when SHO works. The Neuspeed is more than $120 expensive than the CL-S rear bar. $170 vs. $50. The biggest difference is not in the metal, it's in the bushings. The Neuspeed bar uses polyurethane bushings that Comptech bars also use.
Polyurethane bushings are much stiffer than rubber bushings, so you should get a firmer ride with a Neuspeed rear bar. But if not properly lubricated, polyurethane bushings squeak like crazy. And do you think the bushings and a slightly stiffer metal makes the difference in $120? I don't think so.
If you want to step on to bars better than the CL-S/TL-S, get the Comptech's. The Comptech's is 22 mm vs. Neuspeed/CL-S/TL-S at 19 mm. That's a pretty beefy bar and you CAN oversteer at the limit. I already oversteer on different elevation changes with my CL-S rear bar. When you get the Comptech's, you're buying performance with disregard to price. Some people won't benefit much by going from CL-S/TL-S to Comptech as much as stock OEM to CL-S/TL-S. I already take off-ramps and nice curves with confidence. I just need a drop to make it better.
In my opinion, get either the CL-S/TL-S (whichever your preference because both are same) or the Comptech's. Neuspeed bar is NOT worth the extra money. Heck, go pick up some polyurethane bushings from Energy Suspension if you really want the Neuspeed bushings. But give me the savings to buy two sets of Denso Iridium plugs or something.
Polyurethane bushings are much stiffer than rubber bushings, so you should get a firmer ride with a Neuspeed rear bar. But if not properly lubricated, polyurethane bushings squeak like crazy. And do you think the bushings and a slightly stiffer metal makes the difference in $120? I don't think so.
If you want to step on to bars better than the CL-S/TL-S, get the Comptech's. The Comptech's is 22 mm vs. Neuspeed/CL-S/TL-S at 19 mm. That's a pretty beefy bar and you CAN oversteer at the limit. I already oversteer on different elevation changes with my CL-S rear bar. When you get the Comptech's, you're buying performance with disregard to price. Some people won't benefit much by going from CL-S/TL-S to Comptech as much as stock OEM to CL-S/TL-S. I already take off-ramps and nice curves with confidence. I just need a drop to make it better.
In my opinion, get either the CL-S/TL-S (whichever your preference because both are same) or the Comptech's. Neuspeed bar is NOT worth the extra money. Heck, go pick up some polyurethane bushings from Energy Suspension if you really want the Neuspeed bushings. But give me the savings to buy two sets of Denso Iridium plugs or something.
If you want the best sways, get the Comptechs, they are worth it. If you want a good bang for the buck, I guess the TL-S/CL-S sways are good.
I own a TL-S and swapped my stock sway bars for the Comptechs. The Comptech bar is thicker than the stock TL-S bar was both in regards to its overall diameter, and its wall thickness; all of these sway bars are hollow, not solid.
The Comptechs made a very significant difference in how my TL-S handles, and all the TL-S owners who put them in agree as well. The $299 (front and rear) I spent on them was very well worth it. The car really should have come with these sways from the factory, and they were truely worth every penny.
I dont see how anyone can say that the Comptechs if purchased would be bought with a disregard for price, or that some people wouldn't benefit much by going with the more rigid Comptech set up. My TL-S definitely handles much better and doesnt wallow like a pig anymore around turns. Ive had the stock TL-S sways and now have the Comptech sways, and trust me the difference is night and day on my TL-S.
I own a TL-S and swapped my stock sway bars for the Comptechs. The Comptech bar is thicker than the stock TL-S bar was both in regards to its overall diameter, and its wall thickness; all of these sway bars are hollow, not solid.
The Comptechs made a very significant difference in how my TL-S handles, and all the TL-S owners who put them in agree as well. The $299 (front and rear) I spent on them was very well worth it. The car really should have come with these sways from the factory, and they were truely worth every penny.
I dont see how anyone can say that the Comptechs if purchased would be bought with a disregard for price, or that some people wouldn't benefit much by going with the more rigid Comptech set up. My TL-S definitely handles much better and doesnt wallow like a pig anymore around turns. Ive had the stock TL-S sways and now have the Comptech sways, and trust me the difference is night and day on my TL-S.
Originally posted by Mr Hyde
If you want the best sways, get the Comptechs, they are worth it. If you want a good bang for the buck, I guess the TL-S/CL-S sways are good.
I own a TL-S and swapped my stock sway bars for the Comptechs. The Comptech bar is thicker than the stock TL-S bar was both in regards to its overall diameter, and its wall thickness; all of these sway bars are hollow, not solid.
The Comptechs made a very significant difference in how my TL-S handles, and all the TL-S owners who put them in agree as well. The $299 (front and rear) I spent on them was very well worth it. The car really should have come with these sways from the factory, and they were truely worth every penny.
I dont see how anyone can say that the Comptechs if purchased would be bought with a disregard for price, or that some people wouldn't benefit much by going with the more rigid Comptech set up. My TL-S definitely handles much better and doesnt wallow like a pig anymore around turns. Ive had the stock TL-S sways and now have the Comptech sways, and trust me the difference is night and day on my TL-S.
If you want the best sways, get the Comptechs, they are worth it. If you want a good bang for the buck, I guess the TL-S/CL-S sways are good.
I own a TL-S and swapped my stock sway bars for the Comptechs. The Comptech bar is thicker than the stock TL-S bar was both in regards to its overall diameter, and its wall thickness; all of these sway bars are hollow, not solid.
The Comptechs made a very significant difference in how my TL-S handles, and all the TL-S owners who put them in agree as well. The $299 (front and rear) I spent on them was very well worth it. The car really should have come with these sways from the factory, and they were truely worth every penny.
I dont see how anyone can say that the Comptechs if purchased would be bought with a disregard for price, or that some people wouldn't benefit much by going with the more rigid Comptech set up. My TL-S definitely handles much better and doesnt wallow like a pig anymore around turns. Ive had the stock TL-S sways and now have the Comptech sways, and trust me the difference is night and day on my TL-S.
Plus, you really don't have any other choice beside Comptech's since Eibach's aren't out yet. So, for the TL/CL owners, Comptech is the ONLY solution. Neuspeed's application is a joke for the TL/CL, so I'm not even counting them. But for the Accord applications, the CL-S/TL-S rear bar will be sufficient for many drivers. Some people will benefit from Comptech's but why spend $250 more? You don't see how that's performance with disregard to price? We're in the Accord forum talkinga bout Accords, not the TL brothers. Of course, the upgrade would make sense for the TL's... but then again, it's the only real viable upgrade as the TL doesn't have other choices in upgrades in sways.
For me, $250 saved from going with CL-S/TL-S vs. Comptech's will net an intake system or some springs. I'd take that over $300 set for Comptech sway bar set. I already make my car oversteer at the limit, so why go with Comptech's and have more oversteer? This is from how I drive. Others will benefit a lot by going with Comptech's. But for $250 more? I'd pause before making that purchase.
And who knows... OBX may make a copy-cat design of the Comptech bar soon. If the quality is there, that'd be a good choice to look into possibly.
Sorry, but I think your comparison is flawed. Comptech bars are good for some (like the TL's and CL's), but I think the CL-S/TL-S will be ideal for many. If money is not an object, the Comptech's MAY in fact be the best bar to get. But for my case, I'm weary about how much oversteer the Comptech bar can potentially give. I know my CL-S bar is a balanced setup for my car, though.


