first built f23
Its not that much of a difference in spool. They say it adds about 250rpms to spool, which is not even 0.001 of a second. My builder is telling me ill probably start spooling at about 3k rpms and reach full boost at about 4500-8500rpms (i stop reving wherever my power stops). But if i had a smaller engine, like a 1.8-2.0l engine, i wouldve gotten a GT3071 with a .63 ar and called it a day. But i have a f23 that has been bored out so i displace more then a regular f23.
What car are you going to put it in, because if its going in your civic as a DD i wouldnt recommend it. If you want a fast ass street car, id get a disco potato for that and call it a day. With a light car, damn near instant spool, and a lower displacement engine it would be a perfect match. But if you are going for the drag/highway racing type build the GT3071/GT3076 would work good. I just dont think the transient response on that turbo with that engine would be smooth.
Originally Posted by mugenfreak
thats the turbo i want...minus that huge hot side....havent decided on what size for the hot side
Last edited by bubbrubb; Dec 11, 2006 at 05:29 PM.
yay its gonna be a DD...right now its just a stock b16a2 w/ minor mods...probably goin with the Full Race Prostreet Stage 1 AC kit w/ the gt30r more than likely.....my goal is 12's and around 250-300whp...if i build the motor im aiming for closer to 400whp
The setup Geoff Raicer recommend is:
Prostreet Stage 1 AC kit
Hondata or Neptune
Walbro 255 high pressure intank pump
RC 750cc high impedance injectors
ITR cams and ITR intake manifold
Stock fuel rail, stock fuel pressure regulator, stock fuel filter
Stock distributor, stock ignition
Stock bottom end
Stock Honda Head gasket or Cometic Thick gasket to lower compression
ARP Head studs
Competition Clutch stage 4
The setup Geoff Raicer recommend is:
Prostreet Stage 1 AC kit
Hondata or Neptune
Walbro 255 high pressure intank pump
RC 750cc high impedance injectors
ITR cams and ITR intake manifold
Stock fuel rail, stock fuel pressure regulator, stock fuel filter
Stock distributor, stock ignition
Stock bottom end
Stock Honda Head gasket or Cometic Thick gasket to lower compression
ARP Head studs
Competition Clutch stage 4
Yeah, youll get to 12 seconds with a disco potato. Ive seen a lot of hp come out of B series engines so i dont doubt their potential. I was just trying to help you out a little bit. Because some people think that the absolute judge of a f/i car is having the biggest turbo they can find. And while that might be true on the drag strip, as a DD its totally different. You will fall out of boost a lot with a turbo that is too big for your car. With a B series and a GT30r(which is the HKS3037/GT3076) your looking at spooling @ 4000rpms and reach full spool @ 6000 rpms. With that kind of power band, its going to be a rough ride, and the transition from none boost to full boost will be dramatic(100's hp within a couple hundred rpms) and very hard to handle on the street.
well from what geoff raicer at full race told me the spool rate for the gt30r will only be a minimal diff. of 500rpms over the t3/t4 and the benefits of a ball bearing center housing(longer life, less maintence, faster spool) out weighs the cons...cuz the trubo that comes with the kit is a t3/t4 hybrid w/ 57 trim hotside so its already on the "larger" side anyways for a 1.6liter...cuz the kit including turbo is good for up to 450hp and i believe the gt30r is good up to 480hp....so his reasoning adds up plus ive had several others(one guy...joe who works at a perf. shop and has a 10 sec. civic with the gt35r) recommend this turbo as one of the best "street" turbo's plus i will obviously upgrade the suspension like full race street traction bar system, bilstein struts, lowering springs, urethane motor mounts and some bfgoodrich g-force kdw tires....nothing is set in stone but i appreciate the help...let me tell you i was questioning the legitimacy of this thread but you've made me a believer...i love sleepers and a accord is always a good sleeper...too bad its not a 4dr
I know of geof, and im not saying go against the mans recommendations. But you ave to realize something when talking to him, hes a full drag strip racer by heart. He will always recommend the bigger turbo because to him more lag and higher hp is acceptable. But anyways, a little update. I just got my 250 mile oil changed and there was no metal fragments or shavings in, which is excellent news. The motor is getting louder, the builder told me its because my rings are getting seated and are the pistons oversized so they will produce more noise then stock. I have to get another oil change in 300 miles, and after that my motor is almost half way to being broken in.


