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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Hi,

I understand that most wear and tear on the engine occurs when you start the car after the engine had been off for a while (i.e. overnight). That split second before the oil pump pumps the oil into every nuk and cranny of the engine.

I have 2 questions:

1. How come there isn't a way to hook up oil pump to contact switch so that oil starts pumping as soon as you give contact and before you turn the engine (pardon my ignorence if I just asked something umbelivably stupid)?

2. I heard that it is good to give contact, wait 2-3 seconds and then start the engine? Why (if so) is that good?

Thank you for your input.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Really the best thing to do is drain the oil before start-up. This will solve the question on what oil to use.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OHS
Hello.

The best way to prevent cold start wear is to change the oil regularly and use a petroleum-based oil, not "pennsylvania oils" as they contain a paraffin (wax) base that eventually will leave a residue build-up in the engine. If that happens down the road, dry startup will probably be the least of your worries.

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I use Mobil 1 5W-20 synthetics (sometimes Amsoil 5W-20 synthetic). I change it every 3-4 k miles. Is that good enough?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Just stop using oil altogether
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OHS
Ahhhhhhhhh............a sweet sound to my ears. Mobil 1. If you're changing every 4K miles, as my uncle did in his Honda, you're apt to see many, many miles out of your car.

He traded his Accord in with 667,000 miles. Thats no jive. He had to trade it because the northern Illinois winters and salt caused the right rear strut tower to rust and come through the passenger's compartment! Engine still ran great, he said he put like 7 clutches in that thing!

You're doin' alright. Check with Honda to ensure these later model cars can tolerate synthetic, or maybe ask 98CoupeV6. Just don't know there.

I believe they are ok with synthetics. I also do tranny fluid (Honda ATF only) drain every 15k miles. AUTO tranny failures (statistically) worrie me more then the engine ones.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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By the way, there IS an aftermarket electric pump that, supposedly, by activating it before the mechanical ones, it will prolong the life of engine....

Take a look at www.pre-luber.com

I think, as long as one does not do stupid things like red-line an engine immediately upon startup, it is an overkill...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tkamiya
By the way, there IS an aftermarket electric pump that, supposedly, by activating it before the mechanical ones, it will prolong the life of engine....

Take a look at www.pre-luber.com

I think, as long as one does not do stupid things like red-line an engine immediately upon startup, it is an overkill...
While I understand that engines last very long even without some-sort of pre-lubing system (before you crank the engine), I am surprised that none of the car makers were ready/willing/able to integrate some sort of pre-lube desing into their engineering.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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I say lets all roll to detroit and gang-storm the automakers! WE WANT PRE-LUBERS WE WANT PRE-LUBERS
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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The engine in basically any automobile built today will last virtually forever if:


1. Change the oil and filter regularly (3-4,000 miles.)

2. Change it atleast every 4 months.

3. Do not "race" the motor. Do not abuse it. Despite the claims that many of the manufacturers post 4500+ rpm HP figures, keep it under 4,000 rpms also.

4. Crank the engine and let it run atleast 60 seconds before touching the throttle. This will allow the oil to be pumped into all the ports and crevices. Just keep off the throttle immediately after cranking and it will be fine.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Thooks
The engine in basically any automobile built today will last virtually forever if:


1. Change the oil and filter regularly (3-4,000 miles.)

2. Change it atleast every 4 months.

3. Do not "race" the motor. Do not abuse it. Despite the claims that many of the manufacturers post 4500+ rpm HP figures, keep it under 4,000 rpms also.

4. Crank the engine and let it run atleast 60 seconds before touching the throttle. This will allow the oil to be pumped into all the ports and crevices. Just keep off the throttle immediately after cranking and it will be fine.

Nice. Thanks.
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