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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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hey guys, long time visitor, first time posting. love the info.

i know it's been discussed, but is it really worth it to boost? I'll give up the $$$ if i'm convinced.
Alright, i was given a 2001 accord dx, YEP, the amazingly slow f23a5, as a gift from my bro a year back. car is very light however, no power locks/windows, etc.

43k miles, well-maintained as of today.

I was thinking that i can get the engine worked on, internals improved, and boost w/ a fmax or Drag kit.

I wanna run 12psi or higher, since the engine will be beefed up.
any clue how the numbers would look?. I was thinking i'd see around the 250fwhp range, which is sweet (only 50hp/a few psi from 300). labor for me is pretty cheap, as a friend is a Honda certified mechanic.

Question again, is it worth it??. Or should i use the 5k or so that i'm willing to spend for the extra bang for a down payment on a G35?

thanx guys.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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worth it.

if your gonna get pistons, rods, valves, etc 12psi is weaksauce. go with higher CR pistons like 9:1 and boost like 15psi daily. but if theres a really good tuner in your area you could go with something higher like 10:1 or higher and make some mad hp. make sure you have a standalone (hondata, aem ems, uberdata, etc) to tune and a good tuner.

b_ron007 from a few other boards has a boosted f23 tuned with aem ems and hes making some pretty good numbers on a stock block. at 8.4psi me made 209whp and 221wtq. hes street tuning with the aem uego and is now boosted at the 15-17psi but not dyno's yet.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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yeah man, i've checked out b_ron's vid.

crazy 2nd gear....gets to 60 like child's play.
and that 4th gear pull where he's afraid of going full boost...see...i need that...lol. stand alone is definitely my main priority (hondata).

i was thinking i can definitely approach high 12's, low 13's with some lightweight forged Volk's on BF Goodrich Drag radials, running 16+psi. remember my car has NOTHING luxury (windows, locks, cruise, etc.), no extra weight.

any more suggestions?
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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eh, running 13's is still a stretch, cause you gotta find axles too, there is a whole process that's involved with doing this man, just remember that everything that is connected to the engine has to be inspected and overhauled when you run boost, not just the engine itself
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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i thought u meant converting to fuel injection, lol.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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If youve got the money go for it. The f23a5 is non vtec too, i dont think ive heard of anybody modding on of those yet, so you might want to look into a vtec head swap from an a1. But boosting an accord can put down some nice power in the end. And i think since in 1990 every accord was FI lol, optional in the 3rd gens.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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FORCED INDUCTION!!!!!!!!
lol.....

k, i'd invest about 10g's total (engine/tranny build + turbo/engine mgmt., suspension, body). my 2001 is paid off. i figure i'd rather take those 10k and make my car unique and pay off the debt easy, rather than get the "cool" new car, like a Z or a g35(which i love, actually), and fall $37,000 in debt.

Engine build + turbo setup, i'd definitely aim for a 300+ hp car. runnin close to 20 psi.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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for 10k u can build a bad ass nissan 240 with sr20det and be able to hit 300hp without internals.

hondata is not offered for f23.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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i just love my accord.

yeah it's a bit heavy and underpowered, so what. It's clean and reliable, and just under 4 years old w/ under 45k miles. Best of all, it's paid off. I owe not a red cent.

I'll laugh when some kid in a new Z or somethin loses to my 4 dr. O-W-N-E-D.
(i recently was embarassed by a G35...hope i find him once i'm running 20psi in my "honda ricer").
Yep, build the engine and get to 350+ hp.....(everything else taken care of, of course...tranny, axles, suspension..etc.).

*edit. Oh, and by the way:
Supra curb weight - 3515 lbs.
Base Accord f23 sedan (mine has no lux like power anything, cruise, etc) = UNDER 2888!
240sx = almost the same 2800lbs w/ the sr20det in it....actually, more like 3000lbs. only plus is RWD.
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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I think the setup b_ronn007 is running is pretty solid. If you were to get the drag kit, AEM EMS, a wideband 02 sensor, upgrade your injectors, upgrade your fuel pump, and a GM 3bar map sensor your proably looking at spending around $8000 total(give or take a grand if you install everything yourself), including tuning by a shop that knows the AEM EMS. if your car is all paid for and you have the cash to spend I say do it! I've heard that the compression in the DX motor is a little better than its vtec counterpart. if you do decide to boost, keep us updated on your progress. I got to drive notoriousB's boosted 6th gen with 9.5lbs of boost and that thing was just crazy. If I had the cash I'd seriously consider it boosting the accord. NotoriousB was running mid 14s and was having some traction issues. if you were to run 12-15lbs I'd think you'd be able to hit high 13s.
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