oh I know, I love the car, and the even though it may have problems of grinding it still may not be enough to sway me away from it. But the point is, why pay over 20K for a car that grinds and that most dealers do not want to do anything about, I was dissapointed in honda/acura when I heard this.....It wasnt about the problem, it was mostly that they didnt want to do anything about it in most cases....