Gas Mileage Problem
Originally posted by STL
Yes a bad O2 sensor with knock your milage down -- as too will a small crack in the exhaust manifold. That is what I found on my Civic just last night. Bummer...
Yes a bad O2 sensor with knock your milage down -- as too will a small crack in the exhaust manifold. That is what I found on my Civic just last night. Bummer...
Originally posted by 93DituneEX How can I tell if my o2 sensor is bad?
You can test the o2 with a voltmeter, I will tell you how.
Your o2 sensor reads 0-1 volt. It creates its own voltage. On a 4-wire o2 sensor, the o2 sensor wire that goes to the ECU (pin C18) is the WHITE wire. Take a voltmeter, or a multimeter set on DC 20 (Direct current, lowest voltage setting), and jab the red probe through the insulation on the white wire, touch the black probe to the (-) terminal on your battery. Watch the needle on the voltmeter. If it cycles up and down from 0-1 volt while your car is idling, it works.
The other alternative is to buy an Autometer Air/fuel gauge. It works off of the voltage from the o2 sensor wire. For installation, you need power, ground, and the last wire splices to pin C18 at your ECU. Really simple install, and the gauge is less than $60 if you shop around. There are cheaper ones out there, too, but the Autometer works really well, and will not only tell you your o2 sensor is working, but how rich or lean your car is running. A great tool for people with fuel economy issues, or for boost junkies.
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Your o2 sensor reads 0-1 volt. It creates its own voltage. On a 4-wire o2 sensor, the o2 sensor wire that goes to the ECU (pin C18) is the WHITE wire. Take a voltmeter, or a multimeter set on DC 20 (Direct current, lowest voltage setting), and jab the red probe through the insulation on the white wire, touch the black probe to the (-) terminal on your battery. Watch the needle on the voltmeter. If it cycles up and down from 0-1 volt while your car is idling, it works.
The other alternative is to buy an Autometer Air/fuel gauge. It works off of the voltage from the o2 sensor wire. For installation, you need power, ground, and the last wire splices to pin C18 at your ECU. Really simple install, and the gauge is less than $60 if you shop around. There are cheaper ones out there, too, but the Autometer works really well, and will not only tell you your o2 sensor is working, but how rich or lean your car is running. A great tool for people with fuel economy issues, or for boost junkies.
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... and if you had a failure on your o2 sensor, you'd get a check engine light with either code 1, or code 41. It's not common for these to fail without triggering a CEL, but it's not impossible. If I were you, I'd check to make sure your IAT sensor, MAP sensor, TPS sensors are hooked up properly. Your car would run like total ass if either of those weren't hooked up, but those are the only 3 sensors in that area. Then maybe inspect your vacuum hoses for holes.
Originally posted by Crash&Burn
$60-80
$60-80
Also keep in mind these O2 sensors don't always come out easy. Mine broke off even after I soaked it several times with liquid wrench (and waited 20+ minutes for it to soak in good). I've heard heating them helps to get it out easier -- but I was told you needed to get the metal glowing-hot which takes a helluva torch.
also you might have a "soft" code in your PCM. Its just like another code but it doesn't set the MIL (check engine light). go to autozone or something and see if they have the scan tool for your car. usually they will let you borrow one and check it out.


