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All the tie bars and such are good for theoretically stiffening the chassis. They're cool if you can afford them but sometimes it'll be hard to notice a difference.
I'm convinced that the best bang for the buck when it comes to changing handling characteristics comes from playing with the swaybars...especially since you already have an EX. There are many different size combos out there and I don't think anyone can really suggest one killer setup because it all depends on what you want.
For those people who have Ground Control or Skunk2 sleeve setups, another option could be to play with spring rates front and rear. This might possibly be a cheaper option for lower trim level cars which would otherwise require the aquisition of endlinks and LCAs and all that stuff from other cars to use swaybars.
I'm convinced that the best bang for the buck when it comes to changing handling characteristics comes from playing with the swaybars...especially since you already have an EX. There are many different size combos out there and I don't think anyone can really suggest one killer setup because it all depends on what you want.
For those people who have Ground Control or Skunk2 sleeve setups, another option could be to play with spring rates front and rear. This might possibly be a cheaper option for lower trim level cars which would otherwise require the aquisition of endlinks and LCAs and all that stuff from other cars to use swaybars.
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Originally posted by agent87
All the tie bars and such are good for theoretically stiffening the chassis. They're cool if you can afford them but sometimes it'll be hard to notice a difference.
I'm convinced that the best bang for the buck when it comes to changing handling characteristics comes from playing with the swaybars...especially since you already have an EX. There are many different size combos out there and I don't think anyone can really suggest one killer setup because it all depends on what you want.
For those people who have Ground Control or Skunk2 sleeve setups, another option could be to play with spring rates front and rear. This might possibly be a cheaper option for lower trim level cars which would otherwise require the aquisition of endlinks and LCAs and all that stuff from other cars to use swaybars.
All the tie bars and such are good for theoretically stiffening the chassis. They're cool if you can afford them but sometimes it'll be hard to notice a difference.
I'm convinced that the best bang for the buck when it comes to changing handling characteristics comes from playing with the swaybars...especially since you already have an EX. There are many different size combos out there and I don't think anyone can really suggest one killer setup because it all depends on what you want.
For those people who have Ground Control or Skunk2 sleeve setups, another option could be to play with spring rates front and rear. This might possibly be a cheaper option for lower trim level cars which would otherwise require the aquisition of endlinks and LCAs and all that stuff from other cars to use swaybars.
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Originally posted by flipped cracker
i kinda figured sway bars would have more of an impact than tie bars, but i do think tie bars help. i do have an ex, and it's a sedan, so i know i already have front and rear sway bars, which will make it easier to upgrade those. i just want an overall good stiff feel when turning, especially sharp turns. i would like to get into autocross, which is why i'm looking into all of this.
i kinda figured sway bars would have more of an impact than tie bars, but i do think tie bars help. i do have an ex, and it's a sedan, so i know i already have front and rear sway bars, which will make it easier to upgrade those. i just want an overall good stiff feel when turning, especially sharp turns. i would like to get into autocross, which is why i'm looking into all of this.
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id recommend just getting the gsr front sway and a smaller rear sway than the ITR unless you reinforce your subframe. make sure you change all the bushings to urethane unless you want to keep it more spongy.
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beaks is a good place to get the itr bar w/ a beaks kit, which you'll need anyway.
I got neuspeed front upper, front lower and rear lower (tie/strut bars) used off of ebay. I'm pretty impressed with the quality and the overall improvement in handling/feel of the car. Definitely worth getting, but definitely NOT worth paying full price. Used is the way to go.
I'm sure you already know, but don't go with cheapo brands here, and don't go with DC sports.
I got neuspeed front upper, front lower and rear lower (tie/strut bars) used off of ebay. I'm pretty impressed with the quality and the overall improvement in handling/feel of the car. Definitely worth getting, but definitely NOT worth paying full price. Used is the way to go.
I'm sure you already know, but don't go with cheapo brands here, and don't go with DC sports.
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From: in a van down by the rive
Originally posted by white_n_slow
beaks is a good place to get the itr bar w/ a beaks kit, which you'll need anyway.
beaks is a good place to get the itr bar w/ a beaks kit, which you'll need anyway.
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Originally posted by white_n_slow
know, but don't go with cheapo brands here, and don't go with DC sports.
know, but don't go with cheapo brands here, and don't go with DC sports.
i'll have to look into some used neuspeed. i have neuspeed springs right now, so i trust them.