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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Yeah this is the JDM D15B right?
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 09:50 PM
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Three stage VTEC is actually a pretty simple concept. Below a certain RPM - 2000 usually - your engine only opens one intake valve. This creates a nice swirl of air in the cylinder, which is good for fuel economy. (No, don't ask me why it increases fuel economy, I have no idea. Swirling air = good.)

Above 2000 but below third stage engagement it runs like any other Civic.

The third stage is identical to conventional SOHC VTEC, just some added lift on the intake lobes.
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Old Jun 27, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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very cool
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:36 AM
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Just look for two VTEC solenoids. This engine pushes out 130HP stock from a 1.5L.

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3-stage VTEC
Examine the SOHC VTEC and SOHC VTEC-E implementations. The clever Honda engineers saw that it is a logical step to merge the two implementations into one. This is in essence the 3-stage VTEC implementation. 3-stage VTEC is implemented on the D15B 1.5l SOHC engine in which the VTEC-E mechanism is combined with the power VTEC mechanism.

Many of us probably has laughed at the poor ignorant layman who said "I want power AND economy from my Honda". We know of course that power and economy are mutually exclusive implementations. Honda decided not to abide by this rule. Now, with 3-stage VTEC, we get BOTH power and economy !.

The diagram below illustrates the 3-stage VTEC implementation. The intake rocker arms have two VTEC pin actuation mechanisms. The VTEC-E actuation assembly is located above the camshaft while the VTEC (power) actuation assembly is the standard wild-cam lobe and rocker assembly.





Below 2500rpm and with gentle accelerator pressure, neither pin gets actuated. The engine operates in 12V mode with very good fuel combustion efficiency. When the right foot gets more urgent and/or above 2500rpm, the upper pin gets actuated. This is the VTEC-E mechanism at work and the engine effectively enters into the '2nd stage'. Now D15B 3-stage works in 16V mode (both intake valves works from the same mild cam-lobe).

Stage 2 operates from around 2500rpm to 6000rpm. When the rpm exceeds 6000rpm, the VTEC mechanism activates the wild cam-lobe pushing the engine into the '3rd stage', the power stage. Now the engine gives us the full benefit of its 130ps potential !

The 3-stage VTEC D15B engine is used on the current EK-series JDM Civic/Civic Ferio VTi/Vi together with Honda's new Multimatic CVT transmission. Stage-1 12V or "lean-burn" operation mode is indicated to the driver by an LED on the dashboard. The 2500rpm cutover from lean-burn to normal 16V operation in fact varies according to load and driver requirements. With gentle driving, lean-burn can operate up to 3000rpm or higher. Stage-3 may not always be activated. The Multimatic transmission has a selector for Economy, Drive, and Sports mode. In Economy mode for eg, the ECU operates with a max rpm of around 4800rpm even at Wide-Open-Throttle positions.

The essence of 3-stage VTEC is power AND economy implemented on a 1.5l SOHC PGM-Fi engine. Many people mistakes 3-stage VTEC as a "superior" evolution of the power oriented DOHC VTEC implementation, describing DOHC VTEC as "the older 2-stage VTEC" and implying an inferior relationship. This is totally wrong because DOHC VTEC is tuned purely for high specific output and sports/racing requirements. 3-stage VTEC is in truth an evolution of SOHC VTEC and VTEC-E, merging the two implementations into one.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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so i guess if it pushes out 130 hp stock i guess i dont need it...but i can get them for like $300 for the engine....thanks for all the info
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by asiandoood
i believe they are used for fuel economy.... similar to our VTEC-E


but i have heard that they are also found in the VTi and SiR engines as well...not totally sure on that.
I belive your right.

But the HX civic is faster then the EX in some ways :fawk:
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by crucial Si
so i guess if it pushes out 130 hp stock i guess i dont need it...but i can get them for like $300 for the engine....thanks for all the info

there are many D15B's... do you have a pic of the engine?
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by asiandoood



there are many D15B's... do you have a pic of the engine?
nah i dont have any pics...its sitting in my friends house. i havent been over to see it so i cant even describe it to you.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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Well, if you did not know what one was then how can you get them for $300.00? There were several versions of the D15B and the engine codes are all the same on all of them. I just put one in a 5th gen DX but it is the VTEC-E version D15B from the Civic ETi.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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Isn't an auto LSD tranny an option on some of the JDM civics that use the D15B? If so how much and what would I need to do this swap (keeping the auto LSD tranny) and just dropping the JDM D15B in since it uses the stock mounts on my auto DX?
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