ok good, then when i go to order them, i should say i want 205/45/hr16??????

 

If that brand and size comes in that speed rating...yes.


usually the low profile performance 16's will come V rated at the lowest.

 

on tirerack.com they have 205/45WR16 Kumho ECSTA Supra 712. does that mean they dont make HRs? and how do i know what the treadwear is on the WR rated?

 

damn i wish i new more about tires. i dont want to fawk up again and get asscrap tires like my ziex502s

 

Yokohama Avid H4....anybody heard of these?
treadwear 360

Crazy about driving ? If so, you'll love the split personality of the all-new AVID H4 / V4. Created to possess an insatiable appetite for the rigors of high performance driving, AVID H4 / V4 combines decades of race-proven technology with an uncanny ability to deliver superior ride comfort, low noise and long tread wear through all kinds of weather. The AVID H4 / V4 comes with a 45,000 mile treadwear warranty.

 

The Yokohama AVID H4 and V4 are touring tires. They are meant to last longer than performance tires.

As for the speed rating...try searching for Kuhmo's website...they have all the info there.

 

gonna go to the site now.

so are the AVID a good tire??? i plan on getting some 15s w/ a drag radial on them so im not worried about massive grip from them. i just need my daily tires to last me more that 10K miles.

 

I have these tires on my rear wheels. They last like forever, but the only thing is that they are kinda loud. I've gone through two sets of front tires (other brands) (damn those Generals that last me 20,000 miles:madfawk: ) and I still havent changed the Yoko's.

 

i was really happy with my 205/45-16 kumho 712's. i dont remember the speed rating tho... they rubbed a little in the back on big bumps, on the inner fender wells up front when flipping b!tches

 

Dood, it's easy peezy. We can help you out. Here goes...
If you look at the ratings for W and Y, they are rated over 149mph. So they are Z rated. It's like saying B is any number equal or greater than 3. You can say B=5 or B=134067063780 and it's true. So W and Y are Z. On the sidewall, you'll see Z. On the website, you'll see W.

My 712's are W rated according to Tirerack but they have a Z on the sidewall. (they're not just for Lambos anymore. :naughty: ) I got them because they supposedly have a softer compound which supposedly equals better grip.
Close...but exactly the opposite as has been stated. BUT, you CANNOT accurately guage one manufacturer's treadwear rating against another manufacturer's. You can only compare within a brand. They set the rating's themselves and there is no real universal standard.

One thing you should know. Forget about real tirelife if your alignment is totally jacked.
As you already know, Ziex suck. So do Nitto NT450s and tons of other "performance" tires.

If you need an all weather tire, get the Yoko AVID. I thought about getting them for the rain and snow (would still require chains though). I doubt they'll offer the performance of the Kumhos though. If you want a better performing, cheap performance tire, you'll be happy with the 712's.