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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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haha i dont have emmisions cuz if i did i would be screwed
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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-hey man i have a 2000 civic wit a 95 b18b1/v....and we have the same emmission rules....what i did was i took out my chipped p28 cause itz obd1...(i use a 2000 si harness)...and i plugged a 2000 si computer and boom, i had my car pass inspection...( i had engine lights....but the mechanic deleted it with his diagn. checker and then ran my emmision.... may be this method can help
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rpmman22
if i buy a half cut would that have all the emissions equitment i would need for that. and this would work putting a b18c in a civic?
as long as you have the pcv working, evap working, all vac lines plugged in, o2 sensors working, functioning cat, no CEL's, it should be good.

Originally Posted by spliffstar
-hey man i have a 2000 civic wit a 95 b18b1/v....and we have the same emmission rules....what i did was i took out my chipped p28 cause itz obd1...(i use a 2000 si harness)...and i plugged a 2000 si computer and boom, i had my car pass inspection...( i had engine lights....but the mechanic deleted it with his diagn. checker and then ran my emmision.... may be this method can help
cali is the strictest place for emissions. no bar sticker saying your swap is legit no care.
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rpmman22
I was wondering if it is possible to make a B16 or a b18 legal in a civic do u have to get the usdm motor. i was wondering this bc i am moving to sd and i heard the car regulations down there are pretty harsh so any info would help.
I swapped a B18C1 into my 1995 Civic coupe last year and went to the "smog ref" in November. To make an appointment call the referee scheduling center at 1-800-622-7733. When you call, give them your license plate number or your information for an appointment. Also request that you go to the referee at Southwestern College in Chula Vista. His name is Michael Muller.

Michael has literally done most of the Honda motor swap inspections for just about everyone in town. He knows everything that can and cannot be done with Honda motors. Although I have a virgin P72 OBD1 ECU, he never checked what ECU I was running. Don't assume that he will not look at your ECU though.

Here are some major items he DOESN'T care about:

1) The VIN or serial number stamped on the engine block.
2) He doesn't care if the block code is B18C1 or the JDM B18C. He knows that the blocks and heads are cast exactly the same for the JDM and USDM motors. I have a 96 GSR block and head, but I am set up for 1995 OBD1 smog equipment specs. If I had a 1994 motor, I would still be OK if I ran my smog setup.
3) Cat back exhausts. They have zero effect on emissions.
4) CARB legal headers

Here are some major items he DOES care about:

1) The OBD wiring matches between the car and the engine. If your car is OBD2, but you have OBD1 wiring and OBD1 smog equipment, then you'll fail the visual. Same thing vice versa, OBD2 motor in an OBD1 car and OBD1 wire harness transplant, then you'll fail.
2) All the usual OEM sensors, smog equipment, and catalytic converter are present. If there's anything not hooked up or disabled, you'll fail.
3) The intake manifold must be USDM. The JDM ones have slightly different connections.
4) No adjustable cam gears
5) No adjustable fuel pressure regulators
6) Racing headers or headers without CARB label
7) Any bolt ons without CARB labels
8) Any forced induction without CARB labels. Even if it was legal, I still would show up with a NA motor, then switch to boost after the smog test.

Anyway, he was extremely helpful, informative, and personable. The whole test was not even an hour. You can also call the number listed above and request a callback from the smog ref if you want to talk to him directly for research and good information.

If you need more information from me, post an e-mail address and I will contact you.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Civic
I swapped a B18C1 into my 1995 Civic coupe last year and went to the "smog ref" in November. To make an appointment call the referee scheduling center at 1-800-622-7733. When you call, give them your license plate number or your information for an appointment. Also request that you go to the referee at Southwestern College in Chula Vista. His name is Michael Muller.

Michael has literally done most of the Honda motor swap inspections for just about everyone in town. He knows everything that can and cannot be done with Honda motors. Although I have a virgin P72 OBD1 ECU, he never checked what ECU I was running. Don't assume that he will not look at your ECU though.

Here are some major items he DOESN'T care about:

1) The VIN or serial number stamped on the engine block.
2) He doesn't care if the block code is B18C1 or the JDM B18C. He knows that the blocks and heads are cast exactly the same for the JDM and USDM motors. I have a 96 GSR block and head, but I am set up for 1995 OBD1 smog equipment specs. If I had a 1994 motor, I would still be OK if I ran my smog setup.
3) Cat back exhausts. They have zero effect on emissions.
4) CARB legal headers

Here are some major items he DOES care about:

1) The OBD wiring matches between the car and the engine. If your car is OBD2, but you have OBD1 wiring and OBD1 smog equipment, then you'll fail the visual. Same thing vice versa, OBD2 motor in an OBD1 car and OBD1 wire harness transplant, then you'll fail.
2) All the usual OEM sensors, smog equipment, and catalytic converter are present. If there's anything not hooked up or disabled, you'll fail.
3) The intake manifold must be USDM. The JDM ones have slightly different connections.
4) No adjustable cam gears
5) No adjustable fuel pressure regulators
6) Racing headers or headers without CARB label
7) Any bolt ons without CARB labels
8) Any forced induction without CARB labels. Even if it was legal, I still would show up with a NA motor, then switch to boost after the smog test.

Anyway, he was extremely helpful, informative, and personable. The whole test was not even an hour. You can also call the number listed above and request a callback from the smog ref if you want to talk to him directly for research and good information.

If you need more information from me, post an e-mail address and I will contact you.
damn im from national city i didnot think 2 send him there ur right about swc but 2 some people he can be real stricked but for the most part hes cool
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rpmman22
ight thanks man im glad to hear from someone from down there bc i wanted to know for sure what the deal was what can u get away with down there like can u get away with exhaust or anything? pacific beach area is where ive been planning but thats not for surtain. where is all the racing at are there any canyons near there
yeah xsaust is not a big problem but if a cop wants 2 pull u over he will use it as a x scuse go 2 south san diego 2 race if u want pb is more north i never whent up 2 there 2 race on the 905 freeway is a long clean strip have funn on there i know i did in my old civic and 5.0 just watch out for cops i never stopped whith the cops but dont allways puch ur luck so have funn down there
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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So what if I have an OBDI motor and a OBDII harness? Am I good? It's a virgin ECU I had to put an aftermarket cat on it cause mine was RUSTED. I have a race header that's no stamped...no no?
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Do not put an OBDII engine/ecu in an OBDII car, they won't be able to use the data link connector to read your computer and you'll fail. I know, I failed today.
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