This post is a copy from another forum,,, im hoping there will be more experienced people on this forum,,, thanks!!! Honda civic 99... I drive the car really smooth and im not hard on it at all, i would ahve expected better from it!! Anyways, the problem used to be when my gas tank was below the half way mark, it would take about 4-5 turns to start (without pressing gas or letting go of the key) now its starting to do it all the time... even when i just fill up with gas... I try turning the key, (just enough to let some gas into the engine, and then shutting off, and then doing it again, it doesnt help... it always takes about 1-2 seconds to start (it used to be instantaneous) What do you think the problem could be? My battery is kind of old but it doesnt seem to have any problems turning the engine over. Could it be the fuel pump? Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! *UPDATE: Ok so i went to the cinema tonight and the check engine went on. I jumped the PCM and got error 8. In the haynes manual it oculd mean 3 things. TCD(top dead center) sensor no signal, malfunction, or something wrong with the timing belt or something. (TDC position) I took the timing belt cover apart and the timing belt was not loose. I changed it myself at 100 000KM. There was no unusual wear on the belt. So im guessing its the sensor thats broke. Cause the TDC has to do with the ignition right? if theres a malfunction in the TDC sensor that could be causing the problem when i start my car? If anyone could give me any information about the TDC that could help me with my problem please dont be shy *UPDATE2:* ok i brought it to the honda dealer. The ****** was rude and i hated the service. He went to talk to a mechanic and they said 'code 8 is for engine idling problem, not the TDC sensor',,,, who should I believe? A book, or a mechanics opinion? Where can i find details about error 8 when jumping the two wires on the net? I cleared the error on the car so i cant bring it to the honda dealer to get fixed yet,,,, but thats what Ill do I think,, its 48$ to put it on the odbII reader.... (or i can but a reader myself for the computer and do it myself? the ODBII scantool for a computer is like 80$ and i can use it in my carputer setup to give me engine information etc.... Ideas? I dont know what to do any more. i dont wanna bring the car to the honda dealer,, the ****** treated me like ******. Thanks!!!!

 

Sounds like your starter or battery.

 

Find out what the actual code is for 8......in ODB 1 8 is a distributor problem.....if it is an idle problem, have them fix it

 

in the haynes manual it is also a distributor problem.... and the dealer said the distibutor was over 450$,,, ahhhhh!

ideas on what I could do?

 

Well, if you get a code 8 and it says thats the TDC sensor, that would probably be ur problem. You see the sensor is usually located in the distributer, and as the engine turns the dizzy rotor hits the sensor to let it know when it is at TDC. I had mine go bad in my CRX with B16 Swap one time, and it would hard start then eventually not start. I replaced the distributer with one from Rywire, and BAM the problem was solved. I would get ur code checked at like autzone or whereverf irst, they do it for free. The TDC Sensor is one of the most important sensor in the car for start up. ALso, you may want to check ur MAIN RELAY, that flicks on the fuel pump to prime it for start up. Just a thought.