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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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ok heres the deal - i just picked up a delsol-vtech 95 with the b16a3. unfortunitly the owner has blown the engine(head still good) and sold the stock ecu- p30 obd1. my question is about setting up an and ls-vtech. ive been researching on what set up to run in this car and ive made a decision. im going for a b18c-$400 block. BUT - i had just attaind a LS balanced crank-$200. heres where i need info if ive done something wrong. from what ive heard - use a gsr block because it mounts perfectly with a b16a3 head(they say use the gsr block because its a better block than ls and ofcourse the oil squirters) now regarding the LS balanced crank-i hear that it fits perfectly into a b18c1 and pluse i want the longer stroke for torque(even if its just a little bit more). ok heres where i get into some tech trouble - what rods and pistons should i use in the b18c w/ls crank. i have a feeling it should be the ls R&P but im not definitly sure, thats why im posting. i guess i plan to get aftermarket rods and pistons- but regarding the length and size for gsr block with ls crank im not sure what to get(info would be great). i plan to go turbo so peeps say the best ratio is 9:0:1. as for the tranny set i was leaning towards the ls tranny because of longer gears and more time for turbo(hell screw that-saves a little more GAS in 5th for daily driving) and the last bit of info would be the ECU issue. im not sure what ecu to get for this set up-(i found a p30 spoon chiped ecu for 200) should i get that -or look for a gsr ecu and one last thing is what timing belt do i need for this set up. thanks for any input you can offer-is this a good or bad set up?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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if you've done so much research you would know it's VTEC. but whatever...

use ls length rods with the crank in a b18c block. you may have clearence issues with the oil squirters. you can either bend them to clear or remove them and plug the holes. as for the tranny issue, get a gsr tranny and drop in an ls 5th gear if you really want to save gas. the gsr tranny is a good compromise between an ls and b16.

with the ecu, you want something programmable, stay far away from those "chips" you see floating around everywhere. most of the time, they will make you run rich and make your car run like crap.

use an nonvtec timing belt if you use a nonvtec water pump. vtec pump, vtec belt.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Whoever is spreading the rumor that an LS tranny is better than a GSR tranny for boost applications is a retard.
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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The only benefit of longer gears is a higher top speed. If you can build it so that you have a long powerband (good luck in a small 4 banger..) then go for the long gears. Otherwise, you will shift out of 2nd at 7-8 grand and drop out of boost, vtec, and your powerband when you hit 3rd at like 4-5k. There is nothing about more time for the turbo or anything when dealing with transmission.. you want to strictly think about your powerband and your top speed. Idealy you would get the longest gears possible while still being able to shift at redline and drop down to the low end of the high end of your power band.

That really doesnt make much sense i dont think.. if not ignore it. Im really tired but i tried at least.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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opps for the misspell (V-tech means VTEC) bye the way thanks snoopy for the info. do you recommend any programmable ecu's? one last note regarding the oil squiters - are they good for turbos? i heard people say that they plug them because of something to do with regulating oil pressure - hell i dont know
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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By programable he means get it chipped with hondata, chrome, neptune, uberdata. Then you get a basemap and tune from there.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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okay im confused when you say going ls vtec does it necesarely have to be the newer ls 94/ and up block or can it be older models wats the difference, are the ls from 93 and down any different do they have less power what block of the ls years is it better to go for.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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It can be any b18b or b18a I belive, then there's like b20's with vtec heads and such, it can get pretty deep in detail as to different set ups.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Whoever is spreading the rumor that an LS tranny is better than a GSR tranny for boost applications is a retard.
Oh, you mean half the internet
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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use a p28 with hondada
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