delsol161

hey guys. my last thread was about a motor swap. i need to know if i even need to swap my motor out. basically, i have an oil problem. i.e, there is a layer of oil on top of every piston. i personally think it's rings. it smokes like a mofo, but runs great. 150k miles on the motor, and a preveious owner ran a NX kit. i think the rings have juss given out. what do ya'll think? how much would this cost to repair? i've found d series rings for like $120, but i thin kthe labor is what will kill me. any suggestions?

eonsx311

it could also be leaky valve seals

delsol161

that was my friend's suggestion. either way, the head is coming off i'm juss not sure @ this point which one it is. my dad said getting the valve seals replaced is like an $800 job... which is why i was juss gonna swap it for an LS. wither way, i'm looking @ more money than i have.

servion

Do a leakdown test to find out for sure.

To test your rings, do a compression test. Then put a cap full of oil in each cylinder an do a compression test again. If it goes up significantly, its your rings.

delsol161

sounds good. i also juss foud a guy selling a d16 for $300. it'll bolt right up in my car... and the guy offered to sell me a matching turbo kit. i think that'd be faster than an LS with few mods. maybe that's the route to go? thanks.

raiden571

oh god.do a compression test, u can get the tool for about 30 bux from autozone. if ur numbers suck ass, its probably ur rings. are u smoking real bad? if so what color? if its anything to do with ur head, which i doubt, and u dont feel up to the task, take the head to a performance shop, look for a place run by an older guy. there less likely to rip u off,and itll be cheaper then honda stealership. if its rings, u might as well do it urself.
http://www.autohausaz.com/catalog/lo...Token=67954909
these rings are for a 95 civic ex. this site is dirt cheap. how cheap ACL bearings will cost u atleast 100 bux off of honda-tech or any distributer, they have them for less then 30 bux, the site rules.
if u decide to do it ur self witht the rings, buy a ball hone. the stone hones are a pain in the ass to use, the ball hones are simple. ull need a torque wrench for ur head bolts, gircle bolts, and rod bolts. ull need some feeler gauges and a manual that has ring gaps, torque specs ets.

delsol161

it smokes very slightly@ idle. but if i get on it there is a small cloud behind my car till i shift (seems to be in high rpms). it's grayish smoke, very little blue. i cleaned the plugs and thats how i found the big problem... when i looked into the motor throught the holes for the plugs, i could see a layer of nasty, black oil sludge coating the top of each piston. i'm afraid it'll juss be easier and cheaper to buy like a d16 which'll bolt right up, and throw a turbo on it with my current mods.

Civic2Scooby

ok..not to be a dick, but compression test /= leak down test, and you can get shitty compression from a bad valve just as easily as you can from shot rings........and of course your numbers will go up if you do a wet compression test...if you really wanna know if it is rings or valves, have a leak down test performed. It will tell you exactly where you arent getting a tight fit, be it the rings or valves.

delsol161

i dunno. it's all juss frustrating. i was already pissed cuz i'm repainting my entire car... now my motor is screwed. i'm so tired of it. i need a cheap motor. lol, it'd be so easy.