Your KYB AGX settings?
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WRX cuz Honda won't wagon
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From: San Jose, CA
Originally Posted by Hondaman
How do you like the springs so far? I thought the handling was greatly improved over stock.
Do you have and problems with bounce in the front end when you come to a stop? I did at first, but switched out the front strut mount rubbers with new OEM and it went away. I was trying to find some Energy mounts, but could only find them in the big kit for the entire car. Have you seen them around?
Stay away from the KYB strut mounts, they are like Jello.
Do you have and problems with bounce in the front end when you come to a stop? I did at first, but switched out the front strut mount rubbers with new OEM and it went away. I was trying to find some Energy mounts, but could only find them in the big kit for the entire car. Have you seen them around?
Stay away from the KYB strut mounts, they are like Jello.
I bought mine off TireRack and they also had the KYB "mounts" which meant the rubber ends that cap the struts (not the rubber that caps the spring). Mine have been nice and not jelloy but maybe we're talking two different things.
Much more confidence in the corners.
I don't have any bounce at stops. The bouncing I experienced was due to uneven sections on the freeway that causes all cars to bounce a bit. 'cept my bounce felt a little worse.
Hey, so if you OVER damp a spring (like set it at 4/4 and 8/8) does that mean the strut starts taking some of the shock work that the spring is supposed to be doing?
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Originally Posted by chimchim
Hey, so if you OVER damp a spring (like set it at 4/4 and 8/8) does that mean the strut starts taking some of the shock work that the spring is supposed to be doing?
No, the spring provides the resistance on the way down, where as the strut provides the resistance on the way up. If you were to take the strut back off, and remove the spring, you could easily push down on the strut rod. If you have it at 1/4 you can pull it back up, but not easily. If you put it at 4/4 you can still easily push it down, but pulling it back up will be very slow and difficult.
Glad you like the way the springs turned out. I still enjoy the ride on my car as well. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by Hondaman
No, the spring provides the resistance on the way down, where as the strut provides the resistance on the way up. If you were to take the strut back off, and remove the spring, you could easily push down on the strut rod. If you have it at 1/4 you can pull it back up, but not easily. If you put it at 4/4 you can still easily push it down, but pulling it back up will be very slow and difficult.
Glad you like the way the springs turned out. I still enjoy the ride on my car as well. :thumbup:
Glad you like the way the springs turned out. I still enjoy the ride on my car as well. :thumbup:
Black Pearl
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Originally Posted by chimchim
Ah. This was never clear to me until now. I had thought the strut dampens in both directions. So... in a theoretical super over damped situation (100/4 and 100/8), we'd see the car compress as it goes over a bump then see it sit low rider and slowly rise back to normal height.... haha...
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Update.
I'm back to a 2/4 front and 4/8 rear setting now. I think this is the closest match for the H&R OE sport springs. I think what I experienced before was the "newness" of the whole system. Now that things are settled, this seems to be the right setting.
H&R says "OE sports are ~20% stiffer than stock".
And KYB says:
Setting#: Relative Value:
1 - Same as Factory 100
2 - Same as our GR2 products (10~15% firmer than Factory) 115
3 - 50% firmer than #2 172
4 - 30% firmer than #3 223
For an eight position adjustable product, the damping force values are
approx. the following:
With #2 being Factory at a relative value of 100,
#1 = 95 (5% softer than Factory #5 = 143.5 (43.5% firmer than Factory)
#2 = 100 (Factory damping force) #6 = 172 (72% firmer than Factory)
#3 = 107.5 (7.5% firmer than Factory) #7 = 197.5 (97.5 firmer than Factory)
#4 = 115 (15% firmer than Factory)(GR-2) #8 = 223 (123 % firmer than Factory)
It's all making sense now. You gotta let the stuff "settle".
I'm back to a 2/4 front and 4/8 rear setting now. I think this is the closest match for the H&R OE sport springs. I think what I experienced before was the "newness" of the whole system. Now that things are settled, this seems to be the right setting.
H&R says "OE sports are ~20% stiffer than stock".
And KYB says:
Setting#: Relative Value:
1 - Same as Factory 100
2 - Same as our GR2 products (10~15% firmer than Factory) 115
3 - 50% firmer than #2 172
4 - 30% firmer than #3 223
For an eight position adjustable product, the damping force values are
approx. the following:
With #2 being Factory at a relative value of 100,
#1 = 95 (5% softer than Factory #5 = 143.5 (43.5% firmer than Factory)
#2 = 100 (Factory damping force) #6 = 172 (72% firmer than Factory)
#3 = 107.5 (7.5% firmer than Factory) #7 = 197.5 (97.5 firmer than Factory)
#4 = 115 (15% firmer than Factory)(GR-2) #8 = 223 (123 % firmer than Factory)
It's all making sense now. You gotta let the stuff "settle".
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From: baltimore
on my civic...
3 front
6 rear
eibach pro kit springs
suspension techniques sway bars
on my integra...
3 front
3 rear
H&R sport springs
stock sway bars
on my del sol...
4 front
3 rear
no sway bars
H&R race springs
im running tokico blues on my EF so yeah thats all i got.
3 front
6 rear
eibach pro kit springs
suspension techniques sway bars
on my integra...
3 front
3 rear
H&R sport springs
stock sway bars
on my del sol...
4 front
3 rear
no sway bars
H&R race springs
im running tokico blues on my EF so yeah thats all i got.