My (modest) mod plan. Is it achieveable?
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My (modest) mod plan. Is it achieveable?
Not the biggest and best, but I believe I'll feel the difference, and this won't blow the bank. Tell me what you think.
The materials: A 96 1.6L SOHC Hatch, my wallet and time.
Aim: Make 75HP or more. I chose this number because:
A) I think it's achievable, with most sites stating it's got ~65HP stock (Australian model, D16Y engine)
B) A lot of brand new "sports" hatches coming out here (Australia) boasting about having 75HP. So I'd like to match em or better yet beat em.
I used this: http://www.superhonda.com/tech/begin...rformance.html to estimate gains, taking the lowest possible gain as my best expectations. I think it's weird that a number like 8 or 9HP was picked for estimated gain, but oh well, I've used the same numbers. I know it says not to simply add the numbers together, but that's the reason I picked the lowest possible estimated gain and and I have low hopes for each mod by itself, looking more at the end result (and I'll dyno it for the heck of it, to see what i got in the end).
Heres the plan (in the order I'll do them). It's a bit of a mish-mash of the different plans from that page:
1) New exhaust. 2.25" pipes, straight-thru cannon style muffler (most likely a no-name model, by a company called "Supercat" here in Australia. (What should I make sure with the muffler, other than its at least the same diameter as the pipes, to stop any restriciton?) Estimated gain: 8HP max.
2) 4-2-1 header. Most likely A'Pexi or Greddy (which will be better?). I haven't found any other easily obtainable brands here. Estimated gain: 9HP max.
3) Cold Air Intake (I want cold air, not engine ambient air!) Most likely A'Pexi again (I've heard from a few sources now that they're better than K&N). 2nd choice: K&N CAI. Expected gain: 8HP max.
4) Advance timing (free... Woohoo!) Estimated gain: 1-2HP max.
So total expected gains = 26HP.
65HP + 26HP = 91HP. I've got a whole 16HP gap between 75HP and 91HP... left in there for pessimism. Oh and I'll get it tuned after all the mods too, could add a pony or two.
So, am I being realistic in hoping to reach 75HP? And how realistic about getting 91HP?
The materials: A 96 1.6L SOHC Hatch, my wallet and time.
Aim: Make 75HP or more. I chose this number because:
A) I think it's achievable, with most sites stating it's got ~65HP stock (Australian model, D16Y engine)
B) A lot of brand new "sports" hatches coming out here (Australia) boasting about having 75HP. So I'd like to match em or better yet beat em.
I used this: http://www.superhonda.com/tech/begin...rformance.html to estimate gains, taking the lowest possible gain as my best expectations. I think it's weird that a number like 8 or 9HP was picked for estimated gain, but oh well, I've used the same numbers. I know it says not to simply add the numbers together, but that's the reason I picked the lowest possible estimated gain and and I have low hopes for each mod by itself, looking more at the end result (and I'll dyno it for the heck of it, to see what i got in the end).
Heres the plan (in the order I'll do them). It's a bit of a mish-mash of the different plans from that page:
1) New exhaust. 2.25" pipes, straight-thru cannon style muffler (most likely a no-name model, by a company called "Supercat" here in Australia. (What should I make sure with the muffler, other than its at least the same diameter as the pipes, to stop any restriciton?) Estimated gain: 8HP max.
2) 4-2-1 header. Most likely A'Pexi or Greddy (which will be better?). I haven't found any other easily obtainable brands here. Estimated gain: 9HP max.
3) Cold Air Intake (I want cold air, not engine ambient air!) Most likely A'Pexi again (I've heard from a few sources now that they're better than K&N). 2nd choice: K&N CAI. Expected gain: 8HP max.
4) Advance timing (free... Woohoo!) Estimated gain: 1-2HP max.
So total expected gains = 26HP.
65HP + 26HP = 91HP. I've got a whole 16HP gap between 75HP and 91HP... left in there for pessimism. Oh and I'll get it tuned after all the mods too, could add a pony or two.
So, am I being realistic in hoping to reach 75HP? And how realistic about getting 91HP?
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I don't think those estimates are fair expectations. I would however get an intake, header, exhaust, an APEXi SAFC, and have it tuned. You should be able to gain 10HP total after all of those. Then again is all that $ worth 10 ponies? You could make up the 10HP you lack by being a better driver.
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ok.. i'm not tryin to be an azz or anything but seriously for the amount of money that your going to spend on a cold air intake & a header & what not.. just save a lil more cash up & home make a turbo kit!.. WAY more improvement! check into it.. b4 u start spending money.. u'll be glad you did. Or even find someone who has the mods that your currently looking into & got for a spin with them. just my .02
best of luck with what ever u decide tho!
best of luck with what ever u decide tho!
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Originally Posted by Fatewolf
What engine do you have???? What type of car? That HP doesnt sound right... 
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undefinedI found this:
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0207it_ppcivic/
The Honda D16Y engine--it's the little engine that seems to have started it all. When this motor was introduced in the Civic/CRX line-up, the little Japanese econoboxes were suddenly praised for having a sporty nature, signaling the end of the "economical = boring" equation that occupied the minds of consumers at that time. With the engine pushing a factory rated 108 hp at 6000 rpm, the engine doesn't sound too impressive now, but relative to the cars available at the start of that decade it was good enough. Coupled with the car's suspension technology and relative cost of ownership, the Civic became a highly desirable vehicle to own.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0207it_ppcivic/
The Honda D16Y engine--it's the little engine that seems to have started it all. When this motor was introduced in the Civic/CRX line-up, the little Japanese econoboxes were suddenly praised for having a sporty nature, signaling the end of the "economical = boring" equation that occupied the minds of consumers at that time. With the engine pushing a factory rated 108 hp at 6000 rpm, the engine doesn't sound too impressive now, but relative to the cars available at the start of that decade it was good enough. Coupled with the car's suspension technology and relative cost of ownership, the Civic became a highly desirable vehicle to own.