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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Alright I am new to turbo's. I have a Td04 turbo w/ a Talon SMIC, and a Tial BOV. I am going to install this into a 95 Cx with a z6 swap. What I need to know is what do I need to do to install this. It was a used turbo and I don't wanna screw up my engine. Also I have the blue box but everyone says not to use it, to do a VAFC hack. How do I do it and what does it require. Will I be ok using the Blue box for awhile until I understand turbos more? Also how much boost will I run with the Greddy kit w/ the Blue box?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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uppin for help..
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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whats a blue box?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by s1ngle
whats a blue box?
the blue box is the little blue box (hence the name) that greddy includes with it's 92-95 civic turbo kit to control the fuel curves. it just interrupts some of the sensors so that it all works and runs well. with the greddy kit at 5lbs of boost, which is the default boost, the blue box will run your car comparable to stock in terms of drivability. with the afc hack you might notice a wierd idle and some hesitation when accelerating...but not too noticable. the afc allows you to put bigger injectors on and up the boost, and offers more versatility than the blue box.
i'm using 440cc injectors and a vortec 12:1 fmu, as well as a v-afc.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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The only problem with the blue box is that it makes your A/F ratio so rich that your catalytic converter might clog and your gas mileage will suffer pretty bad. I used the one with my kit and went to the hack about a year ago. It's MUCH better. You won't need an FMU like "yellow civic ex" is using.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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So what would be the best way to go for me being a newbie?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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I would go straight to the AFC and larger injectors. It's just as easy to wire and not hard to set for a base tune. Any good fuel management will require strapping it to a dyno with wideband tuning.
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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so would 310 injectors be enough? and what type of AFC can/ should I use and how much is this gonna cost?
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by supermac88
so would 310 injectors be enough? and what type of AFC can/ should I use and how much is this gonna cost?
Yeah, 310cc injectors should be enough for up to 11psi. As for the AFC, you can use the Apex'i VAFC or SAFC, or use the Fields SMC unit. The Apex'i units are much more adjustable and have more "fine tuning" capabilities compared to the Field's units. I'm not sure how much it would cost, but if you PM me or WestCoastStyle we can give you some prices.
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