from what i hear, mustangs are reliable in general. i say if you want lots of power, go domestic. with a mustang or camaro, you could leave all your stuff in your car and wouldnt have to worry about your stuff making your car slower. on the otherhand, with a civic, youd have to gut your interior and take out your sub or whatever to lose weight in your car to make it go faster.

 

The fastest Civic in the world can do 8.1 in the quarter vs the fastest Mustang which easily clears that. But, you have to keep in mind that they are 2 diffrent classes in each other.

That 8.1 Civic holds the record for the fastest FWD car so you can't compare FWD vs RWD.

If your going to be some macho iggnorant fool and just whine about domestic vs import then your just as stupid as the idiot racing on the street since its all about money.

 

mustangs are too caucasian for me lol

 

I've never owned a Civic, but I've been in plenty. Does that count? Hahaha.

Anyhow, my '98 GT has almost 60K on it, and probably 50+ 1/8 passes on DRs, another 70+ 1/8 passes on street tires, and easily another 300 1-2-3 (or 2-3-4) blasts on the street. For most of those passes, I powershifted the **** out of the poor T-45, and it still doesn't even so much as grind (knock on wood). The car's also on it's sixth nitrous bottle, and I'd guestimate 30 acceleration runs with the bottle open.

All that and my car doesn't have a single creak or rattle. The new cars simply aren't the same creaking and groaning chassis from the mid-80s (even those can be easily fixed with some subframe connectors). The only thing my car needs are new bushings on the front end, because they squeak a little bit (lube would probably take care of that, too).

The only thing that's ever broken on the car is an IAC (idle air control motor) which is about a $70 part and you can change it yourself if you can tie your shoes. Usually, it doesn't even need to be changed, though--you can clean them out with carb cleaner and it usually fixes it.

My wife's 98 Mustang V-6 has almost 80K miles and hers doesn't have a single squeak or rattle, either. Obviously, it hasn't been treated like my car, so that's to be more expected (no rattles). Nothing's ever broken on it, period. Just oil changes and I'm about to change the plugs for the second time. Hers is an auto.

As far as the interior quality, I like the Mustangs' interior very much, but I won't comment on that because it's all subjective.

I'd buy a '99+ GT in a second. They'll turn a high 13 or very low 14 right off the showroom floor with a five speed and decent track/driver. Modded for drag racing, you can get a '99+ five speed into the high 12s with bolt-ons, suspension work, and drag tires. Or a 125-150 shot and suspension work and exhaust would be good for a low 12 or high 11 @ about 112-114. Very cost effective.

BTW, go to a mustang website and see how many 5.0s are still ticking (stock) after 200K or 300K miles...you'd be VERY surprised I bet. 150K is nothing for these engines, and especially the 4.6--they're put together very well with tight tolerances and designed to last forever and a day. The only problem you might encounter is that it'll probably burn a little oil in it's later life, but most older cars start to burn oil late in life, anyway.

 

Well i currently own and drive a 89gt mustang daily and as far as power goes it has it. Handling, not so great, the a**end is too light. As far as a honda goes i havent owned one but as far as imports go the only one im impressed with really is the 91-94 ser.
Very strong cars, my best friend has one and it runs 9.4 in a 1/8 and all he has done is an intake and a header, and they handle than any honda or mustang ive seen yet. I guess u could say they are the mustangs of the imports.:thumbup:

 

High 13's off the showroom floor give me some of what your smoking. That is some major bull****. Ther are currently two 99+ GT's in my family and niether one has seen a mid 14 let alone a high 13. There is also a low 12 second 88' 5.0 with more work done than I can type.

My brother in law has a 2001 GT. It has less than 30k on it and he is on his second clutch. $1,500.00 spent so far in repairs. He is a pretty good driver and he runs low 15's all day. The cars best is a 14.7 with an excellent driver (cousin who drives a 12 second 5.0). The stereo is pretty good, the materials inside look and feel cheap, but it feels a lot faster than it is. His stang is childsplay to my civic and I have beaten him a few times in my SE. Oh, and he has an exhaust and a intake with a K&N (not sure what type of intake). They are severely overated IMO. Some jackass mustang owner IM'd me a while back bishing about how his stang would kill my civic and I had to reset my username and I never got a chance to respond so if your reading this, please contact me again so I can further insult the car you drive. Oh, and I hate mustangs BTW. Don't really know why, I just do. It goes all the way back to my Z28 owning days.

 

1. A '01+ Mustang WILL run a high 13 off the showroom floor, given the right driver and right conditions. And a 14.7 does NOT show 'excellent' driving abilities regardless of whether or not you think that time does reflect excellent driving. I won't even comment on the 15.0+ times. You're an idiot if you think that's even CLOSE to what a GT is capable of. ****, my '98GT with gears and O/R pipe ran 9.1 @ 78.5 mph, or about a 14.2 @ 97-98mph on Firehawk SZ50s, and that was with probably 190-195rwhp.

2. Just because your brother can't drive a stick right and has gone through two clutches in under 30K miles, don't hand me the 'Mustangs are junk' pos cop-out line. My stock clutch had over 60 1/8 mile passes on BFG drag radials, including second gear burnouts, powershifting, and 5K rpm launches--and just then was it starting to slip. And if I used your logic then I have a friend who's Civic won't ever start, then all Civics are peices of ****. See how dumb that sounds?

BTW, if you mean he's on his second throw out bearing, then I can believe that--the stock Ford throw out bearings are crap, and always chatter, but it's also covered under warranty. The simple fix? Get a Timken T/O bearing from Autozone and have Ford install it under warranty (which they will do), and no more problem.

3. I also have friends who are still on stock clutches, who run nitrous, superchargers, and some of them slicks. They don't have problems. Is it optimum? No, but they work. One friend in particular has 90K miles on his stock clutch, and it holds a 125 shot on DRs.

4. Comparing a heavily modded Civic hatch to a bone-stock, or bolt-on exhaust Mustang is flaming gay. Maybe I should compare my heavily modded Mustang to a stock Civic and make fun of it? That would be pretty stupid, too and I'm sure you'll agree.

5. Please list what he's spent $1500 in repairs on, for a car that is still under warranty. I'm very interested, because that's alot of brake pads and clutch discs (about the only thing not covered under warranty).

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Originally posted by RedCivic:

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. If you don't like them, fine--but there's no need too bash them just because YOU don't like them.

BTW, I'll find the bonestock 13 second Mustang threads here in a second.

 

Case #1: Second post down in this thread. Look at the sig for a stock GT time. Please note this guy races a Honda, so I'm sure he has no desire to overly inflate his GT timeslips. And no, Magnaflow mufflers don't do a DAMN thing for a stock GT except make it louder (before you try to say they do).

Case #2: Here's one 100% bone stock with an AUTO.

Of course, neither one of these will do anything for you I'm sure except that you'll say they're made up or you haven't seen it done or it's not possible, or blah blah. I mean, after all you hate Mustangs so they can't be worth anything, right?

 

i turbo'ed my 99 ex, and it runs fine, untuned. stock internals...just MSD and fuel and the turbo kit. runs fine, and i STILL get better gas mileage than my buddy's 2002 stock SS camaro. i can keep up with him too.....he pulls about 1/4 car length ahead of me when we run, but with all the mods, i still paid half as much for my car than he paid for his.

and its a HELLUVA lot easier to work on

the new 'stangs look good on the outside, but the interior gets me...dont like the passenger side dash..looks like another guage cluster goes there....as for reliability, i wouldnt know, i never owned one, and for speed they're decently quick, just seems like the 4.6 is small for a V8, but hey, whatever works

 

and don't forget, we're comparing a V-8 sports coupe to a 4-cyl. economy car.......why do people always do that?