again...thanks for all the info......the DSM would end up being traded, just to be sold again......I figured that there would be more interest in that car because of the mods, and power it has, then the civic. The ideal is to get enough money to help me with my 6000.00 96 Avalon that i have my fingertips on..........car is LOADED TO THE GILLS, and my friend(owns a lot) will give it to me for next to nothing.........6k for a 96 that has 70k on the clock.......and is MINT!! i think that is a good idea.......