What do you mean, "when will you guys learn"?

I did use a high powered drill to drill through the spot welds, and it was still a pain to remove them. Dont jump to conclusions buddy, like you know the whole situation, this post was for Beaks kits owners anyway.

I've seen subframe tearout still occur on BSQ's kit so I dont consider the Beaks kit a "waste" of money. Besides, the BSQ kit is a great kit, I just didnt want the chance of irreversible damage (subframe tearout) to happen to my car. I got the Prothane bushings as well, and the Beaks Plates are much more beefy. A few people I know who are frequent track day runners at Buttonwillow and other tracks all recommend the Beaks kit over the BSQ kit. They pointed me to the Beaks kits especially since i have a heavier 4 door, as well as 100 plus extra pounds worth of stereo equipment in the trunk. The extra 40-50 bucks seemed very much worth while.

Wil, the dude behind Beaks Products was also a graduate of my College, and lives/works about 5 minutes away.