Yeah, but not ones like THAT, where you are assimilating my previous efforts to make sense of the OEM buying process and then condeming them because I have not as of yet found answers....please, that is not providing opinions, wouldnt you agree? I was just asking what everyone thought -- personal feelings -- about these specific pieces of dealer installed OEM equipment and if they were actually necessary/important; the original responsee to my post was the most intelligent, coherent individual in the forum so far because he actually ANALYZED each and every proposed piece (or exisiting piece) of OEM equipment and told me why he either liked it or why he thought it belonged in the crotch of 98 percent of the NY oriented "hood rats" infesting the greater tri state area....