Yeah I understand that and I know the modern intricacies of northeast snowfall to the fullest extent, I was speaking of a stylistic ramification of these kids in the metro NY area -- and if YOU are from this region of NY you cannot not know what I am referring to -- that cruise around in 82 Corollas with their multi colored fogs on and nothing else because they simply want to be noticed. If reducing glare from eliminating headlamp patterns works for both y'all, then go for it -- I was talking about yes, these "moron kids" that cruise Francis Lewis Blvd like it's still 1991 with cars so beat up the paint is falling off----BUT they have $1800 PIAAs to showboat; I was not calling the previous poster a "moron kid", for the record.